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Stick with the modi 2 you just bought. Listen to it. Listen to other gear. Find out what you don't like (if anything) about the modi 2. Once you know what the modi 2 lacks for you (again if anything) source out a DAC that provides it by listening and comparing.

I think Ive said this a number of times to you but will repeat it again. Go to a meet, a shop or listen to friends gear. Slow down and do good comparisons. You don't have to listen to gear that you think is better than yours either. If you listen to a DAC that reproduces bass more to your liking than the modi 2 it will give you a data point. Keep doing this and you will have a pretty good idea of what you want in your next DAC.

Switching a lot is expensive in the long run. That $20 here or there and shipping costs really add up over time.

Yes I know it adds up, and I already have my plan in place, which I have not deviated from for awhile, 6 months now I think, Magni 3 was my first cave in a long long time, lol.

I have every intention of going to meets before I ever go above budget... however, I won't need a mobile Fulla 1 much longer... I literally have no dac or amp... so I mean i want a super budget setup that gives me nice bang for buck (until I get around to going to head fi meets), and I don't regret losing the $20 here and there, probably lost $300-700 in total over last 4-5 years... well 6 years if you count my Audio Technica ATH-AD700 (pink version) days. That is a lot of years, and I learned a lot of lessons that I can apply to not only audio stuff, but a lot of stuff in my life in how I spend my money, etc. I assure you, most of my peer group is much worse than me with their money biggrin.gif It blows my mind how many people choose to live paycheck to paycheck while still buying quite a large amount of alcohol and/or cigarettes lol... seeing as how I do neither of those things... well its safe to say I think I have a bright future and can afford a few $20 mistakes here and there, Magni 3 might be one, but oh well, its fun and I am getting so much better at my impulse buys in the audio world, so im quite proud of myself really smile.gif


side note: I currently have a stable of 4-5 cans that will be staying in my permanent collection, so it is indeed worth it to me to invest in a desktop dac/amp budget setup until I start going to meets, etc etc.
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First and foremost, I have not heard that dac. I think I have said this before, but I just want to make sure that you understand that my thoughts are pure speculation.

The only thing that makes me squirm a little about that dac is the price. 700 bucks without shipping. I am gonna say that its 750 with shipping.

You are talking about something that cost 200 bucks more than the jolida, and 100 bucks more than a used timbre TT-1. Or better yet, it costs several hundred dollars more than a jolida 2 with upgraded output capacitors and a very nice set of tubes.

Now thats some really really stiff competition. If it weren't for the R2R dac chip, I would almost certainly tell you to look at other things. But darn, that R2R dac is very interesting.



The amp is what ever. Part of the reason I like tubes so much is that their circuits are simple and pretty darn linear. You have your potentiometer, a preamp tube, a capacitor, a power tube, and a transformer.

This thing looks like it runs the audio through quite a few resistors and other passive components which kind of makes my eye twitch. However they say all the right things. Class A, fully discrete, no negative feedback, and they have a fet input buffer that lookssssss......interesting???

They claim they added the input buffer to work well with crappy dacs, but why not get a proper dac? They sell dacs, so why not say to get a low output impedance dac like one of their own. Why add a whole nother thing a majig in the audio path?.

Nothing wrong with speculation, especially since you have a knack for taking a look at things with a different view. ^_^

I think the wisest option for me right now is to just stick with what I have, since it works, and I'm happy with it. I could then spend the cash (I don't have atm devil.gif ) on trying out some entry level planar, since I want a nice pair of closed back headphones that aren't the M50X's.

Ill also say this is where Caenlen would remind me I always had my eye set on the Gustard A20H and why don't I look at that, especially since you can actually use IEM's with it... tongue.gif

That and I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be able to fit that large of a stack on my desk anyways, simply because in the near-ish future I'll be losing even more desk space (upgrading from three single monitor arms to the WSGF Mini 3+1,and going from 2x 21.5" and 1x 22" monitors up to a 3+1 setup comprised of 27" displays), aaaand I might actually be tempted to get Native Instriments' v2 of their Kontrol keyboards, plus I've had my eyes on the Ableton Push 2,etc etc....
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Yep! And don't forget that the lesser (i.e. whichever one I like the least) will be going up as a Winter Holidays Freebie this year thumb.gif. The baseline is already a great headphone, so I think it'll be a win-win situation either way.

Oh right, I had totally forgotten you were planning on doing a giveaway of one of them!

I do have to ask... Do you feel the base level, unmodded T50RP's would be worth giving a go to, specifically for seeing if I would like what a planar headphone can bring to the table?
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I'm considering a quantum leap in upgrade from my current headphones, to some MrSpeaker Ether C Flow's.

I am also considering pairing them with a Creative X7...would I be doing the cans an injustice? I'm planning on using them for gaming, music of all kinds and movies, as I've heard the Flow is a bit of a master of all, so I'm looking for that end game early.

I'm on the fence, as it's a lot of dollerydoo's, please talk me in or out of it OCN.
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I'm on the fence, as it's a lot of dollerydoo's, please talk me in or out of it OCN.

What are your current headphones? What do you like and what don't you like about them. What is causing you to upgrade? I had the Ether Cs for awhile and have had some extended time with the Flows (both C and non C) so happy to answer any questions.
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What are your current headphones? What do you like and what don't you like about them. What is causing you to upgrade? I had the Ether Cs for awhile and have had some extended time with the Flows (both C and non C) so happy to answer any questions.

I can't quite remember... Why did you wind up letting go of the Ethers again?
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I can't quite remember... Why did you wind up letting go of the Ethers again?

Sound signature and performance vs. price.
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What are your current headphones? What do you like and what don't you like about them. What is causing you to upgrade? I had the Ether Cs for awhile and have had some extended time with the Flows (both C and non C) so happy to answer any questions.
Currently using some AT ATH-A900X's, previously had DT-770 Pro 250ohms paired with an Aune X1. Not really feeling these anymore, mids and highs are sort of drowned out by the lows, and the sound stage isn't doing it for me anymore, I want something more robust, more omnipresent, and balanced whilst also being an improvement on all the basic criteria (ie: highs, mids, lows etc)...I want to pair it with the X7 for gaming, and really up my sound-game, as I'm quite often trying to play with my ears more so than eyes, and I'm starting to feel limited with these A900X's and no DAC driving them or dedicated soundcard (used to have a Xonar years ago and am starting to miss it).
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Nothing wrong with speculation, especially since you have a knack for taking a look at things with a different view. ^_^

I think the wisest option for me right now is to just stick with what I have, since it works, and I'm happy with it. I could then spend the cash (I don't have atm devil.gif ) on trying out some entry level planar, since I want a nice pair of closed back headphones that aren't the M50X's.

Ill also say this is where Caenlen would remind me I always had my eye set on the Gustard A20H and why don't I look at that, especially since you can actually use IEM's with it... tongue.gif

That and I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be able to fit that large of a stack on my desk anyways, simply because in the near-ish future I'll be losing even more desk space (upgrading from three single monitor arms to the WSGF Mini 3+1,and going from 2x 21.5" and 1x 22" monitors up to a 3+1 setup comprised of 27" displays), aaaand I might actually be tempted to get Native Instriments' v2 of their Kontrol keyboards, plus I've had my eyes on the Ableton Push 2,etc etc....
Oh right, I had totally forgotten you were planning on doing a giveaway of one of them!

I do have to ask... Do you feel the base level, unmodded T50RP's would be worth giving a go to, specifically for seeing if I would like what a planar headphone can bring to the table?

No unmoded T50Rps suck. Plain and simple.

You aren't going to get good closed back planars without modding or spending the money on something like a used pair of alpha dogs. Even then, you should know that closed back planars are pretty boomy compared to most high end headphones.

If you want good closed back headphones, then the denon AH-D5000s or one of its derivatives is pretty much going to be a one stop shop for you.

Now if you want a cheap entry level OPEN planar headphone, then get the hifiman HE-400 (plain) and mod it. The mods are much more straight forward than the T50rp mods, and it ends up sounding a lot better.
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I'm considering a quantum leap in upgrade from my current headphones, to some MrSpeaker Ether C Flow's.

I am also considering pairing them with a Creative X7...would I be doing the cans an injustice? I'm planning on using them for gaming, music of all kinds and movies, as I've heard the Flow is a bit of a master of all, so I'm looking for that end game early.

I'm on the fence, as it's a lot of dollerydoo's, please talk me in or out of it OCN.

Spend a little bit and go to your nearest big city next time they have a headphone convention before you spend that kind of money... just my two cents.
    
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It doesn't have any Magni sound at all, it is a completely new design from the ground up based off Schiit Vidar speaker amp topology, they tried to make it Class A, didn't work out, but it still sounded amazing, so they decided to scale it down a notch more and just make it Magni 3. It is basically Asgard 3 non-Class A version.

I already ordered mine, it will hold its re-sale value easily enough. I am going to compare it side by side to TJJ Amp, I imagine I will love both and for different songs to boot. Can't beat $99 imo. one tube amp and one solid state i think is a great combo for anyones complete setup, as they both offer such different flavors.

if anyone knows what I should do for a DAC let me know, going to try to find a cheap Modi 2 Uber on head-fi, Modi Multibit never impressed me and I am not sure I trust the Grace Design SDAC... meh

Schiit stuff is all over the place as far as sound. The Asgard 2 always sounded better than the original Magni to the point it didn't even make sense to recommend the Magni and Modi when for $50 more you just get a not-crap amp. The Fulla 2 is very decent for what it is, but I'm skeptical that after all these years, they have a $99 amp that punches above the weight of it's Asgard 2. I'm interested in it for sure, but as silvrr said, that Head-Fi thread is just free advertising and bait for them.
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That upcoming O2 amp from Massdrop with the Grace DAC looks very interesting.

Yeah, it makes sense of why they never brought back the O2/ODAC if this was in the works for some time. I'm curious about it as well, but I'm not a huge fan of the O2 enough to where I feel the DAC is going to make it that much more likable.
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Nothing wrong with speculation, especially since you have a knack for taking a look at things with a different view. ^_^

I think the wisest option for me right now is to just stick with what I have, since it works, and I'm happy with it. I could then spend the cash (I don't have atm devil.gif ) on trying out some entry level planar, since I want a nice pair of closed back headphones that aren't the M50X's.

Ill also say this is where Caenlen would remind me I always had my eye set on the Gustard A20H and why don't I look at that, especially since you can actually use IEM's with it... tongue.gif

That and I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be able to fit that large of a stack on my desk anyways, simply because in the near-ish future I'll be losing even more desk space (upgrading from three single monitor arms to the WSGF Mini 3+1,and going from 2x 21.5" and 1x 22" monitors up to a 3+1 setup comprised of 27" displays), aaaand I might actually be tempted to get Native Instriments' v2 of their Kontrol keyboards, plus I've had my eyes on the Ableton Push 2,etc etc....
Oh right, I had totally forgotten you were planning on doing a giveaway of one of them!

I do have to ask... Do you feel the base level, unmodded T50RP's would be worth giving a go to, specifically for seeing if I would like what a planar headphone can bring to the table?

Well...it's so easy to mod (I'm not sure what difficulty Tjj is speaking of) that I think it's worthy. Honestly, I've put on the Shure Alcantara pads and then basically opened a single vent on them and I'm super pleased with the sound. It's probably still not to the full potential it could be, but you're a screwdriver and 4 screws (per cup) away from doing what you want to them. That's the beauty of them. I don't think they're terrible stock as Tjj says, but then again, I got them for $109 after a rebate.
 
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