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I got 2 pair's of headphones:
Salar V81
Lupus LPS-1505

Don't google them because apparently they don't exist lol.
Now I'm interested lol. Got any pics?
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Vmoda Crossfade LP are the perfect electronic music and hip hop music headphones. the bass actually works well in them this way. it plays THE WAY THE MUSIC WAS MEANT TO BE HEARD that way.

the point of speakers are to REPRODUCE sound. reproduce as in play the way the makers of the music wanted you to hear it.

not only that but everyone hears differently. you can NOT recommend speakers, headphones, or displays for someone and expect them to like it as much as you do. I bought my CX6 for $72 with employee discount at microcenter, I got the crossfade and the Yeti mic I use as a headphone amp more often than not for FREE, and mostly listen to electronic music with them.

You people judging vmoda, have you ever heard the crossfade LP? Have you noticed how the highs and mids go from muffled as hell to actually distinct and clear after about 150 hours of breaking them in?

The driver’s diaphragm is constructed of a harder inner ring providing an extended high range and a softer outer ring for deep lows.

it takes alot LOT LOT longer for them to break in because of this. they sounded like garbage brand new compared to now. No review of the crossfade online ever even adressed this, ever.



http://www.digitaltrends.com/headpho...ade-lp-review/

This is the stereotypical review I see for the Crossfade.

At least name the damn product right before you talk about it.



Find me a review that had at least a hundred hours of break in before you talk bad and say it lacks clarity.

The Dr. Dre are just terrible ipod earbud quality headphones for $300 made of all plastic flimsy parts.
Everything you say seems to be contradictory. You claim to have bought your headphones for the sole purpose of a reference sound but then you claim to have bought them for the bass. Secondly, you listen to Hip-Hop and electronic, possibly the worst genres for actual musical reference when it comes to judging the quality of headphones.

Throwing around structural "advantages" your headphones that were clearly made for mainstream use with ipods aren't going to help them with their betraying 32Ω Impedance. Bottom line, your headphones were designed to sound good on an ipod whether you like it or not. Anything that boosts a Bass is something to be avoided but i guess since you listen to Hip-Hop why would you care.
If you want to actually back up the decision you made to buy "vmoda" why dont you relate to frequency response, and the kind of equipment you listen to music on as opposed to words like fidelity that really mean nothing when comparing several headphones. Fidelity is not a feature or specific value of a pair of headphones, it is a conglomeration of terms. Once you read up on that feel free to back up your headphones with some substantial claims; as far as i can see there is no single reason to buy the vmodas if you're even an entry level audiophile.

Consequently, your headphones are not audiophile quality and please stop pressing to place them in that category.

But of course feel free to ignore me, this post will probably be removed.
Edited by Razultull - 2/11/11 at 7:17am
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Now I'm interested lol. Got any pics?
Yup.
These are my lupus, I cannot take a pic of my salar's because the camera doesnt have any batteries.

    
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Can I join?? Sennheiser HD595's and Sony MDR 7506 with Voice Coil.
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Originally Posted by Razultull View Post
Everything you say seems to be contradictory. You claim to have bought your headphones for the sole purpose of a reference sound but then you claim to have bought them for the bass. Secondly, you listen to Hip-Hop and electronic, possibly the worst genres for actual musical reference when it comes to judging the quality of headphones.
Possibly? Could be. The truth? Na, not really, particuarly when it comes to electronic music. Electronic music is one of the best genres in fact if you look at it as a whole, not the easy, 'lets-bash-a-genre-cuz-of-its-mainstream-offerings' BS. Good to see the musical elitism shining through.

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Originally Posted by Razultull View Post
Throwing around structural "advantages" your headphones that were clearly made for mainstream use with ipods aren't going to help them with their betraying 32Ω Impedance. Bottom line, your headphones were designed to sound good on an ipod whether you like it or not. Anything that boosts a Bass is something to be avoided but i guess since you listen to Hip-Hop why would you care.
Why? See, what I have observed in the 'audiophile' world that pisses me to no end is that a lot of audiophiles forget there's a thing called a bassline (or a number of basslines). This is turn results in stupid incorrect statements like 'the AKG K701 is 'balanced' or 'neutral' sounding' which it is not. Same goes for bassy headphones. Both sides are overcompensating and not letting a think called sense or scientific measurements do the thinking for them. Dr. Dre 'The Chronic' is fantastic from a production and mastering standpoint tbh (although a bit bright sounding due to I, educated guess wise, the 'Yamaha NS-10' factor). Also impedance is only one factor tbh. A greater factor is the sensitivity of the headphone driver, measured in dB/mW (decibels / milliwatt). It's a myth surrounding audio equipment that in headphones, impedance is the best measure for how well driven from an (high-voltage, low current) amp is impedance much like how people think THD is the best measure for distortion when IM or IMD (intermodulation distortion) is a much better more accurate measure.

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Originally Posted by Razultull View Post
If you want to actually back up the decision you made to buy "vmoda" why dont you relate to frequency response, and the kind of equipment you listen to music on as opposed to words like fidelity that really mean nothing when comparing several headphones. Fidelity is not a feature or specific value of a pair of headphones, it is a conglomeration of terms. Once you read up on that feel free to back up your headphones with some substantial claims; as far as i can see there is no single reason to buy the vmodas if you're even an entry level audiophile.

Consequently, your headphones are not audiophile quality and please stop pressing to place them in that category.

But of course feel free to ignore me, this post will probably be removed.
1) the Headphone Club doesn't have a entry requirement tbh. It's more the OP has a thing called 'life' really. Does it really matter if you're part of a rather meaningless virtual club?

2) Razultull, this is why 'audiophiles' can't convince Average Joe due to the perceived elitism like how you are doing.

Anyway, I'm an audiophile of sorts, tried most of the 'mid-fi' favourites, and a lot of experiences with different headphones and different sound signatures.

Anyway, ya both doing it wrong brahs. Dumb bias both ways makes for a stupid argument.

EDIT: Ya, as suspected, The Chronic was mixed with Yamaha NS-10s

http://bit.ly/hLL1Lb
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
Possibly? Could be. The truth? Na, not really, particuarly when it comes to electronic music. Electronic music is one of the best genres in fact if you look at it as a whole, not the easy, 'lets-bash-a-genre-cuz-of-its-mainstream-offerings' BS. Good to see the musical elitism shining through.



Why? See, what I have observed in the 'audiophile' world that pisses me to no end is that a lot of audiophiles forget there's a thing called a bassline (or a number of basslines). This is turn results in stupid incorrect statements like 'the AKG K701 is 'balanced' or 'neutral' sounding' which it is not. Same goes for bassy headphones. Both sides are overcompensating and not letting a think called sense or scientific measurements do the thinking for them. Dr. Dre 'The Chronic' is fantastic from a production and mastering standpoint tbh (although a bit bright sounding due to I, educated guess wise, the 'Yamaha NS-10' factor). Also impedance is only one factor tbh. A greater factor is the sensitivity of the headphone driver, measured in dB/mW (decibels / milliwatt). It's a myth surrounding audio equipment that in headphones, impedance is the best measure for how well driven from an (high-voltage, low current) amp is impedance much like how people think THD is the best measure for distortion when IM or IMD (intermodulation distortion) is a much better more accurate measure.



1) the Headphone Club doesn't have a entry requirement tbh. It's more the OP has a thing called 'life' really. Does it really matter if you're part of a rather meaningless virtual club?

2) Razultull, this is why 'audiophiles' can't convince Average Joe due to the perceived elitism like how you are doing.

Anyway, I'm an audiophile of sorts, tried most of the 'mid-fi' favourites, and a lot of experiences with different headphones and different sound signatures.

Anyway, ya both doing it wrong brahs. Dumb bias both ways makes for a stupid argument.

EDIT: Ya, as suspected, The Chronic was mixed with Yamaha NS-10s

http://bit.ly/hLL1Lb
What? Your post makes 0 sense.

If you had read the post at all you would know my entire argument is against people who pinpoint singular features to back up favoritism for one particular brand/model. Maybe you would like to rephrase? I didn't quite understand a number of your points.

And, i didn't bash any genre. Hip-Hop and Electronic as well pop all boost certain parts of their music so they sound good on 6$ headphones, anyone can tell you that. Obviously i am not saying 100% of the artists do this, but it is a trend because they have a different target audience. Nowhere did i say that the music is bad, at least read my post properly before adding your garbled opinion.

Classical Music attempts to recreate a live performance of impeccable sound. The meaning of reference comes through here. Obviously a number of Jazz and Blues and Rock artists have also perfected this, but the i used Classical music to illustrate my point.


Lastly, if you place no meaning on a post, then why post at all? Why even visit this forum.
Edited by Razultull - 2/11/11 at 9:40am
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I would love to join =]

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I would love to join =]

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nice HD650s are an awesome pair of headphones. They sound wonderful with a nice amp.
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Has anyone ever sent in headphones to Sennheiser for repair? And if so what's the turn around time? I sent mine in at least 2 weeks ago.
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What? Your post makes 0 sense.

If you had read the post at all you would know my entire argument is against people who pinpoint singular features to back up favoritism for one particular brand/model. Maybe you would like to rephrase? I didn't quite understand a number of your points.

And, i didn't bash any genre. Hip-Hop and Electronic as well pop all boost certain parts of their music so they sound good on 6$ headphones, anyone can tell you that. Obviously i am not saying 100% of the artists do this, but it is a trend because they have a different target audience. Nowhere did i say that the music is bad, at least read my post properly before adding your garbled opinion.
But it doesn't mean it's mastered bad at all, which counts more for the fidelity of the track. Frequency response has nothing to do with the quality of the driver design thus sound fidelity.

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Classical Music attempts to recreate a live performance of impeccable sound. The meaning of reference comes through here. Obviously a number of Jazz and Blues and Rock artists have also perfected this, but the i used Classical music to illustrate my point.

Lastly, if you place no meaning on a post, then why post at all? Why even visit this forum.
Classical is the standard yes but really how many here listen to classical as a 'main'' genre? Also as I said, depends totally on the artist and album. You cannot 'blanket-brand' genres. I have a shockingly mastered classical album for example. I was more commenting on the flawed parts of the argument tbh. Also whether you like it or not, 'Average Joe' picks out singular features and judged accordingly.
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