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You can also make ones out of steel wire 16-20g held down on a bookshelf. Or this

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Lol, I bet no one will answer my question regarding the garbage HD555's poor construction qualities for a very long time, or I will get a reply telling me to gtho and ask on an audio forum.
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Gtho
^^^^ and here's the website to go do some research on this: http://www.DIYHeadphoneMODS.com/forum.html
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I just wanted to give you guys an update on my meelec m9s.

I've had them for a couple months now listening to mainly electro and rock.. They've really come a long way since I first tried them, they have a decently long burn-in period, probably 150h which is comparable to my 7506s. After the burn in the bass had really opened up and was much more free and airy. They became a little bit more warm with the change in the bass but they didn't lose any detail in the high-mids and highs. The high-mids and highs are very close in sound to my 7506s but have a bit more low-mid as I have to eq my 7506s to compensate for the recessed low-mids. The bass however, is very different from my Sonys, it's difficult to explain but it's pretty good and the m9s have surprisingly good extension at the low end for such a small driver!
Overall I'm amazed at the quality a set of iems can deliver and at $25.. it's incredible.

Oh, these things DESTROY my buddies hd202s, especially in clarity for the high-mids and highs!
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Originally Posted by Crazy9000;12503983 
HD 555 are $100 headphones. Not really comparable to a $2,000+ speaker tongue.gif. They use cheaper materials to cut costs.

Cheaper materials to cut costs?

My $3,000 Velodyne ULD 18 is made out of:

MDF
Paper pulp tar resin cone
copper and steel for voice coil and basket
VERY cheap permanent earth magnet
Rubber surround

PCB and capcitors and whatnot for circuitry, STILL VERY CHEAP

$20,000 Legacy speakers use the following materials:

Pretty much the same as my velodyne.

Dayton $30 bookshelves:

MDF
Polypropylene cone (just as expensive as paper, if not more)
Slightly cheaper polyfill and terminal plates
Almost the same materials.



Materials cost IS NOT WHY speakers are so expensive, unless the veneer and terminal plates are worth over $19,000.

Just so you know, the most expensive part of my Velodyne was the foam inserts that came with the subwoofer driver. The guy who serviced the ULD 18's physically told me himself.

I'm not trying to look like an ass here, but I myself need retarded amounts of education, about MANY THINGS.
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Low end Sennheiser are mass produced in China and made of the cheapest materials possible.
High end stuf isn't.
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Low end Sennheiser are mass produced in China and made of the cheapest materials possible.
High end stuf isn't.

Then tell me what the best headphones in the world are made of cause guess what some $20,000 JMlab utopia's woofers are made out of? Paper. Their tweeters might be worth $1,000 each because they are made with beryllium, a metal worth second to only diamond so I'm told, but the fact that in most very expensive speakers, material costs really are not any more than the average speaker. Look at the $3500 set of bookshelves I saw with Kevlar woofers and ribbon tweeters worth no no more than $30 each. Are you really telling me that these products are so expensive because of material costs?
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Corey...not all paper cones are treated equal .
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Then tell me what the best headphones in the world are made of cause guess what some $20,000 JMlab utopia's woofers are made out of? Paper. Their tweeters might be worth $1,000 each because they are made with beryllium, a metal worth second to only diamond so I'm told, but the fact that in most very expensive speakers, material costs really are not any more than the average speaker. Look at the $3500 set of bookshelves I saw with Kevlar woofers and ribbon tweeters worth no no more than $30 each. Are you really telling me that these products are so expensive because of material costs?
I gave you 3 reasons why they're cheaper.
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Corey...not all paper cones are treated equal wink.gif.

I know, case in point is Focal.

What I'm saying is the actual MATERIAL cost is barely anything for most $15,000 speakers compared to their price. The binding posts will probably be the most expensive part material wise. Even if they have a servo like my velodyne, pcb's capacitors and other circuitry cost little to nothing compared to the binding posts they'll make out of real gold.
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Nobody's arguing with your main point. However there are difference in the quality of components used in expensive headphones/speakers versus entry level ones.
    
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