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Thanks for the Rep+. For what your parents do a Quad Core, and a relatively modest graphics card will be fine. 4GB of ram will need a 64 bit OS to fully take advantage of it. Its not a big problem but why not. Theyre are pleny of pirate sites out there jk.
    
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When i build computers, i usually get back about 25% of the money, however, i would only ask for at max, 10%


4770 is not a lower end card! If you overclock it, it competes with the 4850

However, considering that a 4850 is only 10 bucks more expensive, (at ncix) i would get this. http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...anufacture=XFX. It also has a lifetime warenty

I would also get one of asus's or gigabyte's lowerend boards. Such being the ep45-ud3p (we recomend this to everyone who wants a good cheap board.) Other people probly have suggestions too
Yeah I will probably stick with the P5Q and The 9800GT (8800GT)

So you guys think 10% of the final build cost is what I should ask for, if anything?

haha I was going to charge 25-30% lol

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Thanks for the Rep+. For what your parents do a Quad Core, and a relatively modest graphics card will be fine. 4GB of ram will need a 64 bit OS to fully take advantage of it. Its not a big problem but why not. Theyre are pleny of pirate sites out there jk.
Yeah I competely agree. XP Home 32 Bit will be sufficient since 3.25GB is good enough until they upgrade Vista or Windows 7.

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Also, I know this question is slightly off topic, but if you were charging labour and a fee to build a clients' system, how much should I charge them?

Should it be a flat rate, or an hourly rate?

I was thinking something simple like charging them 30% of the cost for labour/building. Of course i'd do it for free but I mean, if they wanna pay, I won't complain

EDIT: Do you think the Cooler Master PSU is a cheap PSU? AFAIK CM is pretty reputable..

EDIT: The Asus 9800GT 512MB is 132.95 added to the cost.

So with the 9800GT, and Q8200, final build cost will be: 691.95 + 13% Tax = $781.86 CAD

I wouldn't charge my family anything. Just make them pay for the parts. I see building a new system as fun and a challenge instead of making a profit. I'd charge my friends though haha! Most of them wouldn't have a clue how much any of the stuff costed, so I could charge them what I wanted without them knowing


And yes, the Cooler Master will be fine. As long as it is branded (CM, OCZ, Corsair etc.) then it will be fine. You just want to avoid unbranded or unknown companies for power supplies.

The 9800GT is a brilliant card to put in there, especially for the price. It can max out CoD4 at over 80FPS, so for anything that your family throw at it it should be more than enough. But, remember the power supply needs the correct fittings for it. If you link me to the PSU/GPU before you buy them I can check it over for you.

Also beware that although 64-Bit can use the full 4GB's or RAM, that it uses 300-400MB more than 32-Bit. So even though you gain the extra 0.75 GB, only about 0.4 of it can be used. The things they do like pictures, browsing and light gaming they will probably never even hit the 3.25GB barrier anyway. 64-Bit XP is also full of bugs and doesn't work properly - MS didn't put much effort into it. So I would wait until 7 is properly released and go 64-Bit, but until then continue using your 32-Bit XP.
Edited by Harrier - 6/7/09 at 9:29am
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post #14 of 21
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I wouldn't charge my family anything. Just make them pay for the parts. I see building a new system as fun and a challenge instead of making a profit.


And yes, the Cooler Master will be fine. As long as it is branded (CM, OCZ, Corsair etc.) then it will be fine. You just want to avoid unbranded or unknown companies for power supplies.

The 9800GT is a brilliant card to put in there, especially for the price. It can max out CoD4 at over 80FPS, so for anything that your family throw at it it should be more than enough. But, remember the power supply needs the correct fittings for it. If you link me to the PSU/GPU before you buy them I can check it over for you.

Also beware that although 64-Bit can use the full 4GB's or RAM, that it uses 300-400MB more than 32-Bit. So even though you gain the extra 0.75 GB, only about 0.4 of it can be used. The things they do like pictures, browsing and light gaming they will probably never even hit the 3.25GB barrier anyway. 64-Bit XP is also full of bugs and doesn't work properly - MS didn't put much effort into it. So I would wait until 7 is properly released and go 64-Bit, but until then continue using your 32-Bit XP.
I agree.

Thanks for the input.

If you by fittings on the PSU, you mean ATX connectors, PCI-e Connectors, etc, I will double check before I buy it but most PSU's at 500W will have at least 1 ATX_12v 1 ATX_24 Pin and at least 1 PCI-e Connector.

I use 64 bit Vista Ultimate right now and I really am in love with it..

Thanks for all the help..

As far as charging them for the build, I'll ask them haha -- I would do it for free or whatever they feel comfortable with. I just like building/computers.
Edited by jam3s - 6/7/09 at 9:32am
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Last thing: Yes, most do. But the 550W I ordered didn't. I think the 9800GT requires 2 x PCIe 6-Pin's from the PSU. But I'm not sure, it will say on the site you are using. But apart from that it all looks good!

Edit: Just remembered. The 9800GT will come with the adaptors anyway, so even if the PSU doesn't have them then you can use some free molex's to power it
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Last thing: Yes, most do. But the 550W I ordered didn't. I think the 9800GT requires 2 x PCIe 6-Pin's from the PSU. But I'm not sure, it will say on the site you are using. But apart from that it all looks good!

Edit: Just remembered. The 9800GT will come with the adaptors anyway, so even if the PSU doesn't have them then you can use some free molex's to power it
yeah And I just checked the specs again, and it's a single 6 pin connector
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Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to share how everything went.

I just went out and bought everything

Final cost with everything is 855 CAD including tax.

They also didn't have the CM Centurion 590 so I got a free upgrade to the CM 690 -- which was about 99 dollars.

So i'm happy.

Anyhow, I'm off to go put it all together.

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Wow nice!! To put it together now? Did you go to the local store? We don't have any computer shops around here, just one that is ridiculously overpriced and sells nothing high-end lol. Let us know how it goes!
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Wow nice!! To put it together now? Did you go to the local store? We don't have any computer shops around here, just one that is ridiculously overpriced and sells nothing high-end lol. Let us know how it goes!
haha yeah we have quite a few stores here in Toronto that sell mid-high end hardware

Luckily it was right around the corner.

So far I have everything installed, did my cable management and I'm installing windows vista x64 as we speak

I also got a WD 640GB AAKS for their primary drive for only 65 CAD!

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Nice build. I think the parts you went with will give it a nice long life. Also, if your parents are like mine, its best just to keep them with XP. A new OS would mean me teaching them where some of the stuff is now, etc etc.
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