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post #10471 of 28613
Oh man, that's sad news GI. I'm sure they'll pay up, it's not like they're broke or anything.

Edit:

@ Baldo_1013, good to see you back here with your amazing photo skills and all!!

@ johnny If I could get you a sample of IC Diamond for free, would you use it? You say you changed the TIM, what did you use?? Please don't say AS5, the stuff on there was much better than AS5.
Edited by BriSleep - 6/18/10 at 7:08pm
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@ johnny If I could get you a sample of IC Diamond for free, would you use it? You say you changed the TIM, what did you use?? Please don't say AS5, the stuff on there was much better than AS5.
I've been using Zalman rev1 ever since it came out...on all my builds, my laptops, my gaming consoles, etc. It yielded 1-2c lower temps compared to arctic silver 5, was thinner which I believed was more efficient, and it was applied like nail polish which made applying an even coat much easier than applying arctic silver 5.

If I'm correct, the stuff Asetek puts on that "Corsair" h50 is shin etsu, found this out the other day. If I would have known it was name brand, I would have just left it on to see how it would perform.

It's hard for me to do proper comparisons if I were to get my hands on anything else because my idle temp is never consistent. Before removing the H50 to re-apply the Zalman, my idle temp was a consistent 38c...after that and after adding a second fan to the rad, my idle temp has been anywhere from 30c to 34c, currently 33c. Maybe my ambient temp is just changing a lot, I don't have a way to read it so that may be the case.

What's this IC Diamond you speak of?
 
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.....What's this IC Diamond you speak of?
.... you can go anc check it out by going to : >> click HERE 2 C <<

...my 2 worth of Help to mention for ya . . .


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This is for Goodink's Scout .....

Fallen but not Forgotten......

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Wow.. That"s some Thermal Compound.

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IC Diamond 24 Carat Thermal Compound maximizes thermal heat transfer between the CPU core and heatsink by taking advantage of diamond’s superior thermal conductivity. Purified synthetic diamond has a thermal conductivity of 2,000-2,500 W/mK compared to 406-429 W/mK for pure silver. Diamond’s five times better thermal conductivity compared to silver makes it a superior heat transfer material for cooling high performance CPUs and is electrically non-conductive and non-capacitive.

Features

* Each tube of IC Diamond Thermal grease contains 7 carats of micronized diamond with diamond particle loadings @ 92% by weight, 94% after 10 minute dry-out prior to heat sink installation. Material loading above 90% is recommended as the best combination of rheological and thermal properties to minimize interface pump out due to thermal cycling.
* Superior bulk conductivity
* Excellent thermal impedance
* Tight particle distributions
* < 40 ì maximum particle diameter
* Silicone free
* Lower viscosity
* Greater stability
* Non capacitive or electrically conductive

Application
IC Diamond contains a solvent which enhances application to the CPU. For optimum results, after applying a thin coat of IC Diamond on the CPU, DO NOT install the heatsink for 10 minutes to allow solvent to evaporate.

IC Diamond is composed mostly of diamond powder, and as such is quite thick. Proper application is critical to optimum performance. Squeeze onto the center of the CPU an amount of IC Diamond compound about the size of a pea - the center of the CPU is where most heat is concentrated. Place the heatsink on the CPU and push down to spread IC Diamond over the CPU's surface. Clamp the heatsink and power up the PC.

Curing Time
IC Diamond requires minimal time to attain peak performance; in most cases, IC Diamond will reach peak performance after two hours of use.

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IC Diamond is designed for stability – it will not bleed or separate in normal use.
    
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OK time for a sad note, we have a fallen Scout. For the people that don't know me, I'm in the Air Force and I just did a PCS(permanent change of station) from Ramstein, Germany to Soto Cono, Honduras. I took leave on the way and built my Scout at home in the US. Well I got my Scout yesterday from the post office and it looks like it took about a 10ft drop. I had insurance through the USPS and I hope they pay up.
Wow, that is horrible. Is it salvageable?
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@ johnny. Its a paste that's thick as tar and has 24 carat diamond dust in it. Ah, mr-Charles posted a link but here's the manufacturers link, they have lots of tests on there that show it's performance: http://innovationcooling.com/


@ Y'all. Here's a little thing I wrote up as a preliminary on what I've been doing:

XFX 5870 Vs. Evga Gtx 480 preliminary results. All this is with a resolution of 1920x1080, aka, true 1080P.

Ok, here’s a quickie for you, my old 5870, ran 75c idle, and 95c when maxed out.

Gtx 480, idles around 75c maxes out at 95c. So what all the hubbub about? The 5870 cranks up the fan when it gets hot, it sounds like a Conair hair dryer. The 480 does the same ramp up, unless you control it with something like Evga Precision or MSI Afterburner. It does not sound like a Conair hair dryer. It sounds like a big honkin fan that accesses air from above and below. They are both loud! I don’t know what the complaint is, they’re both loud, they’re both hot. The 5870 with fan on full idles around 43c, maxes around 87c. The 480, also with fan on 100% idles around 47c, maxed out around 93c. With IC Diamond applied the max temp dropped on the 480 by 7c, the idle temp dropped up to 11c!
Power requirements, these are thorough APC Power Chute Personal Edition this is the requirement of the system, not just the Video Card. I don’t have something that will measure the Card alone.

XFX 5870 reference edition overclocked both the core and memory by only 100mhz, idle draw through system was 233 watts base and maxed out with 99% useage at 406 watts.

Evga Gtx 480, the first one I tested ran at a base of 242 watts, big deal, 9 watts more, maxed out it was 562 watts, difference of 156 watts more. So, turn off your halogen lamp and you’ll compensate for both the power draw and the heat output. The draw on the PSU is nothing to blink at though, the whole system when maxed out by running the Crysis DX 10.1 benchmark with everything set to maximum visual setting drew 81 amps!
Oops! It turns out this card was defective and it’s not 81 amps X 12Volt which would equal a staggering 972 watts. It’s actually 85amps on a properly working card and it’s not taking 12 volts to run, it’s taking 1.047volts which equals 88watts for the core to run, then you have to include everthing else on the board which is why it actually runs at 507watts during a Cysis run instead of the 562 that the defective card was drawing. Lesson here, don’t believe it just because Gpu-Z said it! So, the power the 480 draws over and above what the 5870 draws is only 101watts in the same conditions. It’s when you add Physx to the benchmark that the power goes up.

Performance, well, there’s a lot more that the 480 does for you than what the 5870 does. Sorry but you can’t compare apples to apples in this case, ATI is a red apple with 1600 shader processors on the 5870. Nvidia is the Green Apple, with 480 core shader processors, 60 texture processors, and 48 ROP’s or Render Output units. The 5870 has a core clock speed and a memory clock speed. The Gtx 480 has 3 clocks 700mhz core, 1401mhz Shader clock and 1648mhz memory clock which actually comes out to 3696mhz. The memory isn’t a direct multiplication of the controller speed of 924mhz because bandwidth comes into play.

So, what’s so different between the two cards that it’s worth $100- or 20% more for a Gtx 480? There’s a world of difference, right away I saw things that I didn’t see on the 5870, colors were better, and changing screens on the internet were far quicker. Everything can be adjusted and tested with the 480, with the exception of setting custom fan speeds you can use the included software, if you want certain speeds for particular temps you’ll have to use MSI afterburner but seeing as the same person wrote the programs for Evga, I don’t think there’ll be much time before you can do the same in Precision.

Benchmarks. Well, what do you want? I have Crysis, Call of Pripyat, Heaven, FarCry2, Furmark, O.C. Scanner and MSI Kombuster, which are all really Furmark. I've had from 17% to 36% better on the 480 depending on the benchmark. I also got someone to give me a crossfire 5870 benchmark that I'll punish with Sli'ed 480's.

Best of all, if you want the single fastest video card in your Scout, you don't have to Mod it to fit a 480, unless you have the right mobo or a reference 5870, you'll have to make some kind of mod to fit it.
Edited by BriSleep - 6/18/10 at 8:47pm
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I wasn't sure what you meant. But, last night after I put my new SSD in I put in my other Cold Cathode and ran them horizontally across the top and bottom.









I'm pretty happy with the result.
I am too... That look Fabulous!!!!!! Does it look like it is taking off... with those glow feet.. I am loving this build.. Nice Man ... Really Nice.
    
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@ johnny. Its a paste that's thick as tar and has 24 carat diamond dust in it. Ah, mr-Charles posted a link but here's the manufacturers link, they have lots of tests on there that show it's performance: http://innovationcooling.com/


@ Y'all. Here's a little thing I wrote up as a preliminary on what I've been doing:

XFX 5870 Vs. Evga Gtx 480 preliminary results. All this is with a resolution of 1920x1080, aka, true 1080P.
Ok, here’s a quickie for you, my old 5870, ran 75c idle, and 95c when maxed out.
Gtx 480, idles around 75c maxes out at 95c. So what all the hubbub about? The 5870 cranks up the fan when it gets hot, it sounds like a Conair hair dryer. The 480 does the same ramp up, unless you control it with something like Evga Precision or MSI Afterburner. It does not sound like a Conair hair dryer. I sounds like a big honkin fan that accesses air from above and below. They are both loud! I don’t know what the complaint is, they’re both loud, they’re both hot. The 5870 with fan on full idles around 43c, maxes around 87c. The 480, also with fan on 100% idles around 47c, maxed out around 93c. With IC Diamond applied the max temp dropped on the 480 by 7c, the idle temp dropped up to 11c!
Power requirements, these are thorough APC Power Chute Personal Edition this is the requirement of the system, not just the Video Card. I don’t have something that will measure the Card alone.
XFX 5870 reference edition overclocked both the core and memory by only 100mhz, idle draw through system was 233 watts base and maxed out with 99% useage at 406 watts.
Evga Gtx 480, the first one I tested ran at a base of 242 watts, big deal, 9 watts more, maxed out it was 562 watts, difference of 156 watts more. So, turn off your halogen lamp and you’ll compensate for both the power draw and the heat output. The draw on the PSU is nothing to blink at though, the whole system when maxed out by running the Crysis DX 10.1 benchmark with everything set to maximum visual setting drew 81 amps!
Oops! It turns out this card was defective and it’s not 81 amps X 12Volt which would equal a staggering 972 watts. It’s actually 85amps on a properly working card and it’s not taking 12 volts to run, it’s taking 1.047volts which equals 88watts for the core to run, then you have to include everthing else on the board which is why it actually runs at 507watts during a Cysis run instead of the 562 that the defective card was drawing. Lesson here, don’t believe it just because Gpu-Z said it! So, the power the 480 draws over and above what the 5870 draws is only 101watts in the same conditions. It’s when you add Physx to the benchmark that the power goes up.
Performance, well, there’s a lot more that the 480 does for you than what the 5870 does. Sorry but you can’t compare apples to apples in this case, ATI is a red apple with 1600 shader processors on the 5870. Nvidia is the Green Apple, with 480 core shader processors, 60 texture processors, and 48 ROP’s or Render Output units. The 5870 has a core clock speed and a memory clock speed. The Gtx 480 has 3 clocks 700mhz core, 1401mhz Shader clock and 1648mhz memory clock which actually comes out to 3696mhz. The memory isn’t a direct multiplication of the controller speed of 924mhz because bandwidth comes into play.
So, what’s so different between the two cards that it’s worth $100- or 20% more for a Gtx 480? There’s a world of difference, right away I saw things that I didn’t see on the 5870, colors were better, and changing screens on the internet were far quicker. Everything can be adjusted and tested with the 480, with the exception of setting custom fan speeds you can use the included software, if you want certain speeds for particular temps you’ll have to use MSI afterburner but seeing as the same person wrote the programs for Evga, I don’t think there’ll be much time before you can do the same in Precision.
Benchmarks. Well, what do you want? I have Crysis, Call of Pripyat, Heaven, Furmark, O.C. Scanner and MSI Kombuster, which are all really Furmark. I've had from 17% to 36% better on the 480 depending on the benchmark. I also got someone to give me a crossfire 5870 benchmark that I'll punish with Sli'ed 480's.
Best of all, if you want the single fastest video card in your Scout, you don't have to Mod it to fit a 480, unless you have the right mobo or a reference 5870, you'll have to make some kind of mod to fit it.
So they're both big dogs who like to eat a lot, but is it fair comparison putting up a 5870 against the best Nvidia has to offer? I think the 5870 does well against the 480 considering it's not the biggest dog Ati has in the kennel
    
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Hm, I may give that IC Diamond a try if I could get my hands on it. I'm starting to wonder if this Zalman rev1 is as good as I thought.
 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 Black Edition @ 4.0GHz Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z XFX Black Edition Double D R9-280 3GB Corsair Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 6.0GB/s Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 6.0GB/s LiteOn CD/DVD-RW 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Corsair H80i + 2x Corsair SP120 + 4x CM SickleF... Windows 8.1 x64 HP 2310m Acer x223w 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow Ultimate 2013 Edition Corsair HX-850 CM Storm Scout 2 Advanced Logitech G502 
Mouse PadAudio
Razer Goliathus Speed Standard Logitech G930 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Celeron C1037U N/A Integrated Crucial 2gb DDR3 SODIMM 
Hard DriveCoolingOSCase
Western Digital Black 1TB SATA 6GB/s Passive pfSense N/A 
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