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post #10571 of 28613
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From the FF then it means that the CPU passed the Post.. If the power goes off with a certain wire plugged in it means short Circuit which is more likely the board.. processors are checked and triple checked for core stability and for core Number working.. Especially AMD. It is more likely you see a Walrus in your back yard than your CPU to go back because of a Stress test.. I bet it is a short in the NB.
im not gonna lie..... that would be FREEKING AWESOME
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Here is a rare Photo of the Alabama Walrus..


Edited by Enigma8750 - 6/22/10 at 4:33pm
    
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I boxed up the MB since I'm sure that's next to be RMA'd, hopefully they won't throw a fit over it missing 1x SATA cable, 1x molex to SATA cable, and the driver disc...because I can't find them.

Also boxed up the H50, 5830, RAM and CPU since I can't be having those just lying around all over the place. Kinda weird, taking apart my 2 week old system and putting it all back in the boxes, as if my trial period is over or something.

I keep going over that MB with a flash-light, can't find a single sign of anything happening to it. The more and more I ponder this, the more I think the MB is bad and PSU was just doing its job of shutting off the circuitry due to a short. I hope the next board, if mine is shot, doesn't do this...I will be going for that 4.0GHz overclock again. If it fails again, I'll just demand a refund from MSI and go with another brand 890fx.
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Newegg will send back the PSU if it's not bad, and they will let me know via e-mail about that. If it is sent back, I'll send the MB next.

With or without the CPU in the board...fans/LEDS would just flicker on once and then go out when the 8pin was plugged in, fans/LEDs would power up if 8pin was removed. With the 8pin plugged in, all the indicator LEDs on the board would illuminate, except the four LEDs for the CPU to let me know what cores are running. Removing the cpu, ram, video, unplugging drives, unplugging fans, etc...that all made no difference. The 8pin being plugged in or unplugged was the only event that made a change.

Also reset CMOS, pulled CMOS battery for 10 minutes and re-installed, etc...nothing changed. No trouble code on that little dual LCD panel on the board, would just read FF which is usually what it says on startup until BIOS is done posting, then it reads the CPU temp.

All four cores shared the same temperature at all times. Not once did any differ from the others. I reported the general CPU temp, and the temp of all four cores...core temp is always higher than general temp.
I'm afraid I wouldn't take that bet with E. I had a very similar experience with my 790FX-GD70, only I got nothing other than a tripped PSU. After two board RMAs and a CPU RMA I've been rock solid since. The prevailing thought on the needing to run a 24 and 8 pin power supply is a complete misnomer. Your board should run on a 20 and 4 pin PSU you just won't be able to overclock at all. If I were you I would RMA both the board and the CPU as well, because when my board went tits up it took the CPU as well. I've been a loyal MSI customer for years, but as E said they really seem to be hit and miss lately. You might get lucky with the PSU RMA, but it seems that one or more of the CPU VRM chips is fried.
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From the FF then it means that the CPU passed the Post.. If the power goes off with a certain wire plugged in it means short Circuit which is more likely the board.. processors are checked and triple checked for core stability and for core Number working.. Especially AMD. It is more likely you see a Walrus in your back yard than your CPU to go bad because of a Stress test. It just would have shut down and restarted or made you go to the bios once more.. I bet it is a short in the NB.
Actually with the MSI boards, stuck on FF means the CPU won't initialize. I'm with you, it sounds like a short in the CPU power circuitry.
    
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the msi 890fx is basically the same as the 790fx just another pci-e and different chipset. same pwm 4+1 which makes it outclassed by the other 890fx mobo's(asus and gigabyte use 8+2). this explains the meltdowns people have when running the thubans with msi 790fx and 890fx mobos. of course if your running a 965 it wouldn't affect you, just a fyi.
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I boxed up the MB since I'm sure that's next to be RMA'd, hopefully they won't throw a fit over it missing 1x SATA cable, 1x molex to SATA cable, and the driver disc...because I can't find them.

Also boxed up the H50, 5830, RAM and CPU since I can't be having those just lying around all over the place. Kinda weird, taking apart my 2 week old system and putting it all back in the boxes, as if my trial period is over or something.

I keep going over that MB with a flash-light, can't find a single sign of anything happening to it. The more and more I ponder this, the more I think the MB is bad and PSU was just doing its job of shutting off the circuitry due to a short. I hope the next board, if mine is shot, doesn't do this...I will be going for that 4.0GHz overclock again. If it fails again, I'll just demand a refund from MSI and go with another brand 890fx.
Yep, probably the motherboard, sorry but 2 out of 2 experts here agree. I have ALL the mobo bios codes if you really want them. I just need to know who made the chip. You know, it shows on boot, Phoenix, Award, AMI, would help if I had the version number too. But, it's gotta be soon, I have tomorrow and maybe Saturday.

Edit: That's 4 of us now johnny, RMA the mobo and the chip, don't spend money shipping the PSU unless you already have. I knew Rockrs chip went out on him!

@ Everybody on this thread! I may be here some on Thursday night. I might be here on Saturday, mostly at noon, then night. I'll probably be gone Sunday and after that it's going to be hit and miss.

I don't have a key in my hands yet, but probably Friday this thing is going to come to an end!! We will sign the papers then 3 days later we get handed the keys!! Then a whole lot of you know what hits the fan becuase we have to fix the house before we can even put a box in it. Handicapped ramps gotta go up.

The furnace has to be replaced and air conditioning installed, the water heater will be changed to "on demand" gas, gas lines have to be cut and capped that the last idiots put in there illegally, we have to run lines for the new gas oven (it's electric now), we has to put up firewalls where they took them out. You'd be amazed how much someone can mess up a house in only 18 months of living there and they aren't responsible because they are in Bankruptcy proceedings, even though he's a high paid logger in Oregon.

So, for about a month I will be hit and miss. Three people have my e-mail addy, feel free to e-mail me if you guys want. You know who you are!!

So, right quick if you need anything out of my brain or my book then you better ask now! I guess I could send the book to Enigma for a while, there will probably be No, forget that, it doesn't come out every year, it's every 2 or 3. So yeah, I have to send some stuff to Enigma, I might as well give him the book for a while. If it's alright with him. I just PM'ed you Boss!

Otherwise, PM someone who knows thier stuff. Rockr is here almost every day, knows AMD like the back of his hand. Enigma may not be here Every day but it is his thread, he started all this. Lots of you know the case and case modding. All you need me for is some intel / Nvidia stuff, a little watercooling and if you need that, ask Rockr and he'll get hold of me. Won't you Rockr??

Otherwise you have until maybe Tuesday for anything you need out of me.

If anyone needs that CAD drawing of the window. Someone needs to get me the measurements I asked for or you won't get it untill I'm re-settled and get this stupid trailer sold.

Double Edit: Enigma will have the book some time next week, if there's anything old, unusual or obscure, he can find it in there. Except water cooling, if you need help there don't just go to the thread and ask, most have no idea how water works in a Scout. I'm not saying don't ask there but make sure you verify it will work by asking here too. Know this, I did custom water in a Scout with an O/C'ed intel proc/ mobo and it didn't work, you have to be carefull how you set it up. There will soon be another couple of wet foot experts here.

He doesn't show it in his sig line but look at this: http://www.overclock.net/case-mod-wo...l-edition.html
He's going to know a lot when he's done. He has some very fine experts at his beck and call. Just don't pester him too much, we all have things to take care of. Sorry for outing you mr-Charles.
Edited by BriSleep - 6/22/10 at 9:29pm
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the msi 890fx is basically the same as the 790fx just another pci-e and different chipset. same pwm 4+1 which makes it outclassed by the other 890fx mobo's(asus and gigabyte use 8+2). this explains the meltdowns people have when running the thubans with msi 790fx and 890fx mobos. of course if your running a 965 it wouldn't affect you, just a fyi.
Hey this guy is legit..the Dr. has known me for a while now.. Thanks for the heads up on the Mobo challenges.
    
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It is my pleasure to watch over the book for a while and I will use it to help others.. Thanks bri for your Trust and your friendship and lets hope that we find out about rouge in time.. Its hard for me to deal with loss.. I have not been able to hold on to many people in this world so it hard for me to think Bri.. that you are gonna be gone for a while.. I will sincerely miss you my friend and I will keep you in my prayers.. That logger should have to pay for all those repairs. But the Judges ruling stands..I know hush....
    
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The PSU is already on a UPS truck, somewhere in Kansas if I'm correct. It will get to Newegg sometime on Friday. Once they receive it, they will test it and e-mail me to let me know if it passed or if it was approved for replacement.

After convincing myself even more than the mb was shot, I did an online RMA with Newegg for it about an hour ago. Turns out I only have 4 days left on my 30day return policy so I'm getting that board on a truck first thing in the morning in order to be within the time limit...if I'm correct, as long as the RMA was filed before the 30days then I'm good to go. I do have manufacturer warranties after that 30day period, but it's so nice dealing with Newegg for stuff like this because they always come through for me. Only problem is I can't find the software disc for the board, hope they don't mind.

I really don't think the CPU was the problem, as I had the same results with or without the CPU / RAM / GPU / etc. While the CPU could be bad as well, I'd say it was unlikely. Once I get my PSU back or a new one, and the new board gets here(they don't test the mb if I'm correct, just exchange it), I'll put everything together and report the results.

Oh, since I had pretty much everything pulled from the case I went ahead and whipped out the dremel. Cut out the metal mesh for the top exhaust fan, and the front/lower intake fan, this increases airflow quite a bit. I may also cut out the metal mesh for the rear exhaust fan(pull / rad / push is what will be there) and replace it with a nice laser-cut fan grill, and open that top hole up in the motherboard plate for the 24pin to fit easier through it. Also took this chance to better tuck/route all the case wiring.
 
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