Originally Posted by Enigma8750
Hey Bri... How is the Home Modding going..
This is my favorite bathroom MOD. paint the floor.
Ok, I said I wasn't going to do this for fear of getting nailed by a Mod for putting up something that should be on the DIY network instead of here.
This is how it goes, 2 trailers over is a guy, Tony, who's been doing tile since he was knee high to a Grasshopper. Since they moved in, we would help out thier 3 boys whenever they needed anything, like it snowed and were locked out of thier house. Or the oldest got a Semperon processor and tried to put 64 bit Vista on the family (spanish speaking) computer and messed it up. It was an E-machine, only 32bit!!
So, they've known for years, we can't clean up normally because of our disabilities. In his trade Tony is a Master Tile guy, when they build new houses or someone upgrades to a luxury master suite or kitchen, the union would call him, he would get his truck, pick up his wife, she would do the demo and cut the pieces and he would lay the tile. When we got my backpay Mindy told him we were going to look for a house. Right off he said please let him do the tile.
So, Tony and his wife Monika speak Tile Tech in Spanish, I usually only get a few words, eldest son (S'med) speaks Spanish and English but not a word of TT. If Monika doesn't talk fast and when Smeds speaks Spanish I get 90%, because... it's a lot like German. In fact, Smed tried to learn German and had the same problem I do when I try to speak Spanish it comes out half German. So, it's Tony and Monika discuss, then Monika translates to Smed, then Smed tries
to translate to us.
Now, Master Bath...... We get the house, they're thrilled for us but upset that we won't be 2 doors down. Tony says... I'm still tiling for you, yes? Yes, but we need to change some things first. So, Chris (my bud, handyman) goes under the house to seal up where the duct meets the furnace box, "Plenum". On his way under he looks up and sees mold under the bathroom. Strange because the VA would not approve the house until it past a "Mold and Pest", it was inspected and sprayed for mold!!!!!
< wants to take out two rows of tile that serve as entryway, hallway and dining area to make a bigger living room. The trio come over to look at the house and say they can do the removal, save a few tiles to fix 6 cracked ones, flatten out the floor and tile the Guest bath. We tell them when, they come over and in 2 hours it's all done!!
Then we go to the Master. Chris and I wanted to move the closet to the other side of the bedroom and open up the bath into the closet area and make a Master Bath Suite. Tony and Monika start TT real fast and I hear Vanity, interrupt and say no, Mindy doesn't like Vanities. TT again, Smed looks more confused than Mindy
but I'm getting that they can move the toilet 180 against the other wall, put the sink where the closet door is now and put in a shower surround with Handicapped stuff.
In case you've never seen one it's kinda like this but with a bench instead of a fold down seat. Also, flip the picture, the bench is now on the left behind the non-moving glass:
Chris and I had already ripped out the sink/ counter/ cabinet to get up some of the mold. Tony looks in the crawls space and in our hole and comes out and says nope, can't do it. It would cost more to hire a plumber than to build and tile the whole bathroom. My original idea was to do all the demo and rough in, Green board, Backerboard, Drain, Thinset, Ditra, Thinset and stop, then Tony would come in and lay tile.
From here on, Mindy doesn't know a thing.
Here's where it gets OverClocked! Tony and Monika start saying words that I don't even recognize and go on for 45 minutes, right before they stop I hear Tony say the Spanish word for Concrete! Monika translates to Smed and I understand more of the translation than Smed. Somewhere in there I asked how much it would cost to do this.
Tony gets all frowny faced on me
and in Spanish tells me to "nevermind".
Ok, this is important, owners before us paid $247,000- for the house then took out a Second Mortgage for $43,000-. Where did it go?? Boat, truck with camper, Dualie truck with 5th wheel travel trailer. We got the house for $122,000- on a 5.25% fixed rate VA backed loan.
Now, Chris and I trace the source of the mold. The last owners were in the house just over a year. Then vacant over a year. In that time they did 2 things. They replaced the toilets with low flow fancy toilets, about $200- each! They didn't spend $2- to buy new wax rings.
They also replaced the tile on the wet-wall side of the Master bath, when they did, they put in Fiberglass insulation and plain drywall, no waterproofing, then backerboard, then tile.
Mold Mold Mold. I destroyed the entire bath/ Shower, tile walls, backer board and remove the tub in 4 hours! I took one break and Chris got in there, I said "don't do that", he did anyway and in 5 minutes got sliced by flying porcelain on his arm. Heh heh!! I had
to say "told you so". We get done and I come back to the trailer, the "trio" are out front because one of the cars is overheating. I've been taking pictures the whole time, every time we change something I take a picture. So I have the camera and show Tony and Monika what we did.
Tony and Smed come over the next night look at what we've found and Tony tells me, in Spanish, (Mindy's not there this time) that now.... He can find a guy that knows plumbing, the guy will come to the house and change the wetwall so the controls and outlet are on the long part of the wall. If you're looking in the door, it's the wall straight across. This way, he can then build up the floor, move the drain, tile the entry to the bathroom, carpet highth, then ramp up a little, then put in the rubber shower dam, so you can enter in a wheel chair, then Concrete the shower area and the bench, center the drain, slope everything so water doesn't leave the enclosure, custom tile the whole thing, including the bench so that it looks like something out of Better homes and gardens and all he wants is for us to buy the materials, leave the house for 6-10 hours, then they'll call us, we show up and Mindy will see her dream bathroom that she can't even picture in her head right now!
It goes something like this> Greenboard >thinset >chicken wire >rough out the bench (Monikas job) >Concrete >Floor tile >Thinset >Ditra >Thinset >6" tiles, anyway Mindy wants, >Accent band >6"tiles >2nd Accent band >6"tiles in a different (probably triangles) pattern >trim the whole enclosure in transparent or translucent trim Glass band >paint the walls in a sea blue. I'm going to etch little blue dragons in the corners of the mirror and the shower doors will hang from the Ceiling and I may even have time to etch a Dolphin in the moving part, then get Mindy and show her the dream bath!
So far, we have the shower doors (found them laying somewhere), the concrete, the floor tiles and Chris has re-inforced the joists (just doubled the number) then he's putting 4x4 posts in a kind of upside down U. Tomorrow we pick up the Special Order front and kitchen door and I get to teach Chris custom Framing. Take back the wrong sized OSB that he grabbed, get 5/8th's, finish cutting, remove mold, spray with chemical, put the floor back together. Then, Saturday, lift Mindy over Tony and Monkia's stairs so she knows what we're talking about, then take her to Lowes to look at thier "Wall O' Tile", the largest selection in Northern Nevada. Hopefully Monika will help her pick a combination, buy the supplies on Monday, then on the 24th, everyone leaves except Tony Monika and Smed and they do thier thing! When it's done I will give you before, during and after pics!
How's that sound??
Edited by BriSleep - 7/14/10 at 11:26pm
There's always the "Oh yeah"... Oh yeah, they're going to get, or already have, some really nice light fixtures to make it even more pretty. Just because I pointed out both bathrooms have the same fixture, but one is upside down. Even the front and back doors have the same fixture but one is upside down!