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post #13631 of 28613
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Originally Posted by Shiggins View Post
Don't we want to avoid the sleeve bearing on the top fan? I always thought they wore out quicker when the fan was horizontal like that.
By looking at the problem using physics, I don't see why a sleeve bearing in a vertical axis would wear at all except at the retention clip if used as an exhaust.
There would be no weight bearing down on the sleeve by the shaft to wear against.

To me a fan is a fan and like everything else mechanical in nature they are prone to fail whenever they damn well feel like.
Edited by Rockr69 - 10/8/10 at 5:07pm
    
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By looking at the problem using physics, I son't see why a sleeve bearing in a vertical axis would wear at all except at the retention clip if used as an exhaust.
There would be no weight bearing down on the sleeve by the shaft to wear against.

To me a fan is a fan and like everything else mechanical in nature they are prone to fail whenever they damn well feel like.
again with Rocker being a word smith
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
Unless I am mistaken, the front panel port is an esata port that plugs into a SATA port on the motherboard. As long as you have AHCI enabled in the bios you can hot swap plug in either a regular SATA drive or an ESata drive, but you would need to use an ESata cable to do so and a regular SATA drive would need a power source.


question = doesn't this get diabled in the bios when you are using an " SSD " for your initial HHD ? ? ? IF so, then,
this would mean the E-SATA port is "non-functional " ? ? ? This i ask because I have just installed my first SSD
for my OS drive . . . . just confused/concerned for this, for i know it IS disabled in my BIOS......
choice's to set = IDE / RAID / ACHI > > > > is set at IDE & setup and installed Win7 Ultimate (64).

Please, suggestions/comments/ or even helpful information pertaining for, IF i have done something wrong /am in
need to change _for the install and all . . . . thnx


mr-Charles . . .

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By looking at the problem using physics, I son't see why a sleeve bearing in a vertical axis would wear at all except at the retention clip if used as an exhaust.
There would be no weight bearing down on the sleeve by the shaft to wear against.

To me a fan is a fan and like everything else mechanical in nature they are prone to fail whenever they damn well feel like.
I think it's more a lubrication issue. When the sleeve is in a horizontal position the lubricant can easily cover the entire shaft (even if it pooled in the bottom the shaft would all be lubricated as it spun through). When the shaft is vertical, the lubricant might settle towards the bottom and not coat the whole shaft no matter how hard it spins. This would lead to metal on metal contact wearing the bearing and making noise.

That being said most sleeve bearing are made out of a self-lubricating metal such as brass so the effects aren't immediate. That's why you can have a sleeve bearing in the vertical position and not have the fan instantly seize up. Also, I am not taking into effect capillary action where if the gap between the shaft and bearing is low enough the lubricant can pull itself up.

I dunno, it always seems like lubricating vertical axes is a bit hard and we usually switch to ball-bearings for the verticals at school.

But yeah, mechanical things do fail whenever they damn well please .
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question = doesn't this get diabled in the bios when you are using an " SSD " for your initial HHD ? ? ? IF so, then,
this would mean the E-SATA port is "non-functional " ? ? ? This i ask because I have just installed my first SSD
for my OS drive . . . . just confused/concerned for this, for i know it IS disabled in my BIOS......
choice's to set = IDE / RAID / ACHI > > > > is set at IDE & setup and installed Win7 Ultimate (64).

Please, suggestions/comments/ or even helpful information pertaining for, IF i have done something wrong /am in
need to change _for the install and all . . . . thnx


mr-Charles . . .

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Nope, I'm using AHCI with my SSD as a boot drive. My other drives are fine and my eSata works too with an external HD case. SSD's work in IDE mode too, but hot swapping in eSATA will not work in IDE mode.
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Nope, I'm using AHCI with my SSD as a boot drive. My other drives are fine and my eSata works too with an external HD case. SSD's work in IDE mode too, but hot swapping in eSATA will not work in IDE mode.

...thnx for that quick reply back, ydna666; so, does this mean for me to change to ACHI, I would half to
reset for in the BIOS and do a complete re-install ? ? ? OR, just change in the BIOS and all will reset itself???


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again with Rocker being a word smith
I know Right??? The man needs to start WRITING. He writes better than I do...
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If you're gonna do any case cutting do yourself a favor a get the diamond wheel for your dremel. I know it's $20, but you will not regret the purchase.
Already did. Thanks Rockr.
post #13639 of 28613
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By looking at the problem using physics, I son't see why a sleeve bearing in a vertical axis would wear at all except at the retention clip if used as an exhaust.
There would be no weight bearing down on the sleeve by the shaft to wear against.

To me a fan is a fan and like everything else mechanical in nature they are prone to fail whenever they damn well feel like.
I am almost certain that rifle bearings were the ones to avoid mounting along a horizontal plane...or are sleeve and rifle bearings the same beast?
post #13640 of 28613
Come on Charlie.. You're good with the SSD. They are not as delicate as people make them out to be. And the new BIO's updates will take into concideration the new hardware.

Question to the Scouts?

Can the computer tell when there is a SSD and not a Mechanical HDD in the Build?


My wife just told my dog to eat his food. There are starving Dogs in China.


Edited by Enigma8750 - 10/8/10 at 3:15pm
    
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