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post #13771 of 28613
Newegg was selling the Same 30 gig Vertex that I have now. I thought maybe I could Raid 0 it.

Question. Would that make 60 gigs of harddrive space or would it stay at 30 gigs. Trust me I think I already know the answer to the question but I need confirmation since I never used any raid at all.
    
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post #13772 of 28613
A raid 0 array will double the space of your disks, so you would have a total of 60 gb of space. A raid 1 array would be redundancy where you would have 30 gb of space. You'll loose trim support in raid 0 fyi.
Edited by Moonshadow - 10/13/10 at 9:11pm
    
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Enigma FYI that Lexan a 3/16s inch thick. i actually got around to measuring it lol
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I'm really confused an the whole ssd/raid thing. If 1 SSD rips it up wouldn't I just be better off getting like a 120GB for my OS and Programs and use the necessary sized platter drive for Media storage with a second platter drive of necessary size to use as a backup? Less money spent, still having kickass performance with the security of a separate drive for backup. Or is it just a how fast can I make it thing? It's all about bang for my buck. I don't need the fastest hotrod on the block as long as what I have makes me pee in my pants when I drop the hammer, so to speak.
    
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On a laptop where you only have one hard drive then a larger SSD is a necessity for most users. There are some laptops that can accommodate 2 hard drives, but for the most part they only have 1.

With desktops which can have more than one hard drive with ease then having an SSD large enough for your OS and Applications and then put your My Documents folder and other data storage on a good platter drive (or drives) is more appropriate for most users. That means that a 60 to 120gig SSD tends to be ideal for most users with the data drives being whatever their storage needs demand. A lot of gamers like to be able to put their game maps etc on the SSD since they load faster and have a quicker access time so they tend to like the larger ones or raid them for more space. While a 30gig would probably be okay for the OS only with Vista or 7, it would be way to crowded for the average user to be able to put their apps on, and that would somewhat defeat the purpose. A trimmed down XP install with apps would fit on a 30 for most users though.

It all boils down to ones needs and budget how much is SSD and how much is platter drives. I've seen a couple of raid 0 setups using 6 SSDs, but that is pure overkill and mostly just for bragging rights. A 2 SSD raid 0 is extremely fast. You would need benchmarking programs to tell the difference between that and more in raid 0 though, and for the most part, most people wouldn't notice the difference between a single ssd and a pair of that same ssd's in raid 0 anyway.

I have two 2tb drives and two 1tb drives on my main system along with my OS/Apps drive and two 320g and one 500g plus an 80gig OS/Apps drive on my secondary rig. If, and when I can get an 80gig SSD for a C note I will consider switching from my F4 Windows drive to an SSD Windows drive, but with the cost they are now I can't justify it. My F4 runs at 150mbs and is fast enough for now.
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post #13776 of 28613
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I'm really confused an the whole ssd/raid thing. If 1 SSD rips it up wouldn't I just be better off getting like a 120GB for my OS and Programs and use the necessary sized platter drive for Media storage with a second platter drive of necessary size to use as a backup? Less money spent, still having kickass performance with the security of a separate drive for backup. Or is it just a how fast can I make it thing? It's all about bang for my buck. I don't need the fastest hotrod on the block as long as what I have makes me pee in my pants when I drop the hammer, so to speak.
One day I am gonna write a book just with Rockr69 Quotes..
    
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post #13777 of 28613
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On a laptop where you only have one hard drive then a larger SSD is a necessity for most users. There are some laptops that can accommodate 2 hard drives, but for the most part they only have 1.

With desktops which can have more than one hard drive with ease then having an SSD large enough for your OS and Applications and then put your My Documents folder and other data storage on a good platter drive (or drives) is more appropriate for most users. That means that a 60 to 120gig SSD tends to be ideal for most users with the data drives being whatever their storage needs demand. A lot of gamers like to be able to put their game maps etc on the SSD since they load faster and have a quicker access time so they tend to like the larger ones or raid them for more space. While a 30gig would probably be okay for the OS only with Vista or 7, it would be way to crowded for the average user to be able to put their apps on, and that would somewhat defeat the purpose. A trimmed down XP install with apps would fit on a 30 for most users though.

It all boils down to ones needs and budget how much is SSD and how much is platter drives. I've seen a couple of raid 0 setups using 6 SSDs, but that is pure overkill and mostly just for bragging rights. A 2 SSD raid 0 is extremely fast. You would need benchmarking programs to tell the difference between that and more in raid 0 though, and for the most part, most people wouldn't notice the difference between a single ssd and a pair of that same ssd's in raid 0 anyway.

I have two 2tb drives and two 1tb drives on my main system along with my OS/Apps drive and two 320g and one 500g plus an 80gig OS/Apps drive on my secondary rig. If, and when I can get an 80gig SSD for a C note I will consider switching from my F4 Windows drive to an SSD Windows drive, but with the cost they are now I can't justify it. My F4 runs at 150mbs and is fast enough for now.
theres absolutely no point for me to get an SSD what so ever. WD caviar black in raid - 0 should be damn fast enough imo. slow, 24 sec boot time is slow?
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post #13778 of 28613
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Enigma FYI that Lexan a 3/16s inch thick. i actually got around to measuring it lol
okay,,, so just shy of a 1/4 inch.. That stuff is stout.. Stop a slug I bet.

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post #13779 of 28613
IF you have never owned an SSD you will never know just how fast... Fast can be.

Ohhh BTW......

What do you guys make of this.. Its a FurMark Score with two cores of four used and 2x5770 in Criss Cross. Fire..


IS this a good score or is it back to the Drawing board again.
    
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post #13780 of 28613
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theres absolutely no point for me to get an SSD what so ever. WD caviar black in raid - 0 should be damn fast enough imo. slow, 24 sec boot time is slow?
While you can raid platter hard drives to achieve close to the same throughput speed or even faster, the main difference between ssd's and platter drives is access time. Even the best platter drives in raid will still have an access time of 5ms or higher and more likely about 9ms compared to an ssd's 0.1ms access time. That means that the SSD's access time is 100 times faster than a fast raid array. THAT's where the real difference lies. People who haven't used an SSD really have no way of knowing just how fast they really feel compared to the fastest platter raid setup. Where you really notice a difference is when you open an app. Even with a raid setup there is a slight pause before the app opens while with an SSD it seems to appear out of nowhere with no pause at all. At first it seems like the app loads before you even click the start icon. Unless you have tried it you really have no idea just how fast it is. The closest you can come to that is to setup a ramdisk then run a program from it. That will be what running off of an SSD would feel like.
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