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Poll Results: What is your Overall Opinion on this case

 
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post #16931 of 28613
You can use fans with any kind of bearing in the top, but sleeve bearings tend to wear out faster when run positioned like that. Ball Bearing fans don't suffer from that problem as much. What happens to the sleeve bearing fans is that the majority of the lubricant ends up at the bottom of the bearing surface with the top surface running dry causing it to wear faster. You can take them out, re-lube them with some Fishing Reel Lube, and re-install them every 6 months or so to make them last longer or do what a lot of people do and get the Yate Loon Fans for about $3-$4 on sale and throw them away when they wear out and start making noise in a year or so. If you get sleeve bearing fans that are all the same size you can switch them between the back/front and the top every 4 to 6 months to help them last longer, but I would still recommend lubing them when you make the switch. Using the silicon rubber mounting nubs instead of metal screws makes it easier to R&R them, but you do have to be careful with these as they are fairly easy to tear if you aren't. They have the added advantage of cutting down vibrations and lessening fan noise in a lot of instances.


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I have just disassembled my scout. I have managed to get 2 quick snap shots before the damn camera ran out of battery





I think i might try to sleeve the front panel wires if i can.

More pics to come when the battery is charged!
I love when a build is on... it is my favorite time . Yes.. do everything you want to do now. That way it is done when you put it back together.


Too bad you are in london. or I would bring my tool bag and help you. looks so fun
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You can user fans with any kind of bearing in the top, but sleeve bearings tend to wear out faster when run positioned like that. Ball Bearing fans don't suffer from that problem as much. What happens to the sleeve bearing fans is that the majority of the lubricant ends up at the bottom of the bearing surface with the top surface running dry causing it to wear faster. You can take them out, re-lube them with some Fishing Reel Lube, and re-install them every 6 months or so to make them last longer or do what a lot of people do and get the Yate Loon Fans for about $3-$4 on sale and throw them away when they wear out and start making noise in a year or so. If you get sleeve bearing fans that are all the same size you can switch them between the back/front and the top every 4 to 6 months to help them last longer, but I would still recommend lubing them when you make the switch. Using the silicon rubber mounting nubs instead of metal screws makes it easier to R&R them, but you do have to be careful with these as they are fairly easy to tear if you aren't. They have the added advantage of cutting down vibrations and lessening fan noise in a lot of instances.

LOL.. You sound like my mechanic.. you need to rotate those tires and lube those joints every 6 months...

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LOL.. You sound like my mechanic.. you need to rotate those tires and lube those joints every 6 months...

I don't rotate tires any more personally. I used to with bias ply tires, but not radials. I find that they wear better by not rotating them. I used to get 150,000 miles out of a set of tires with no more than 1/32" difference in wear anywhere on the tire that way on tires that were marketed as 50,000 mile tires. Of course I kept them properly inflated which is much more important than rotating. At most I might rotate front to back, but never from right to left. I grew up in the auto business and have seen way too many problems switching a radial tire from side to side to ever do it again no matter how much better they are supposed to be now.

I don't really worry about the fans for the most part. If I have them out I'll lube them if they've been installed for several months, otherwise I'll only mess with them if I notice them starting to make some noise or vibrate.
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That's me ... Don't fix it till it's broke.
    
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I don't rotate tires any more personally. I used to with bias ply tires, but not radials. I find that they wear better by not rotating them. I used to get 150,000 miles out of a set of tires with no more than 1/32" difference in wear anywhere on the tire that way on tires that were marketed as 50,000 mile tires. Of course I kept them properly inflated which is much more important than rotating. At most I might rotate front to back, but never from right to left. I grew up in the auto business and have seen way too many problems switching a radial tire from side to side to ever do it again no matter how much better they are supposed to be now.

I don't really worry about the fans for the most part. If I have them out I'll lube them if they've been installed for several months, otherwise I'll only mess with them if I notice them starting to make some noise or vibrate.
I can agree 100% On my old SRT-4 I had directional tires and pulled them off the rims to rotate them, what a bad idea. I had to pull them back off and put them back. The car floated all over the road and was barley drivable to the point it was almost dangerous.
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I love when a build is on... it is my favorite time . Yes.. do everything you want to do now. That way it is done when you put it back together.


Too bad you are in london. or I would bring my tool bag and help you. looks so fun
Its a shame you cant help because you have experiance with this sort of thing and my tools are at my dads. So i dont think i can do anything until tomorrow

Can anyone reccomend me some cheap red LEDs i can use in my pc. I was going to get some of these red cold cathodes but Stricker36 said

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go for LEDs instead of Cathodes..... the color is more consistent and you know exactly what your getting.
I am also going to start modding some of the old pc cases i have lying around the house and sell them. So Modding 101 here i come!!
post #16938 of 28613
The biggest problem with rotating radials from side to side is slipping belts which ruins the tire completely. That was more common in the early days of radial tires and is less problematic since the late 80's, it's till a problem.

Directional tires add a whole nuther set of problems to the mix. For the most part they shouldn't even be moved from front to back, let along side to side.

I used to deviate from the factory alignment specs to lessen tire wear on Ford Econoline vans and pickups with the twin I-Beam suspension and to compensate for geographic regions that had a lot of high crown roads to allow them to track better. It's amazing how much difference you can make with a caster change of only a degree or so on some vehicles. That was back in the 70's and on rear wheel drive vehicles though. I have no idea how much of an impact it would make on the front wheel drive drive vehicles we have now. There weren't that many FWD vehicles back then for me to have an opportunity to do any testing on and I haven't kept up with any of the research to know what others have turned up.
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if you dont mind buying international i would suggest these ones. i have the green and white versions in my build and i LOVE them.

THESE




that being said. i really cant help on the euro market...
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Its a shame you cant help because you have experiance with this sort of thing and my tools are at my dads. So i dont think i can do anything until tomorrow

Can anyone reccomend me some cheap red LEDs i can use in my pc. I was going to get some of these red cold cathodes but Stricker36 said



I am also going to start modding some of the old pc cases i have lying around the house and sell them. So Modding 101 here i come!!
Only ones I've seen upon a quick search are by a company called Nexos on eBuyer:- http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138694
But they only seem to have green in stock currently.

Otherwise via US off eBay:- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Computer-Case-...#ht_3946wt_938

P.S. I got a Sharkoon 10CM x2 White Cold Cathode kit, and an Asaka 12" Green for a penny each on Aria's Deal4Today on the 21st
I did order 5 of each at that same price, but I guess other people snapped some up and they had to share between us.

EDIT:-

BTW, who wants to scream at the atrocious cable unmanagement that my old junk PSU left me with when I first got my Scout??
Got my temporary PSU a few days ago and took a pic once I took off the side panel (that took me and my missus to close), before taking that horrific thing out .

P.S. Please don't demote me!!!!




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