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post #17341 of 28613
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What's worse is on this game's forum, one dude was recommending GT 210's and 4350's as mid/high level gaming cards...
Yeah, I've seen it a lot, esp with the 6xxx series & now that the 570 is out and costs less many of those guys are going to say it's better than a 480 & it's not, thus the posts from myself & Rockr. You tell them where to get the straight dope ok?
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Yeah, I've seen it a lot, esp with the 6xxx series & now that the 570 is out and costs less many of those guys are going to say it's better than a 480 & it's not, thus the posts from myself & Rockr. You tell them where to get the straight dope ok?
Aye Aye, Captain!
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Ok, I'm going to try & throw in an edit because I made a tiny mistake. When the announcements were made, the 470 was supposed to have 470 cores, chip failure rates made them reduced to 448, 460's got cut to 338 and the lowly 450 went way down to 192.

I don't remember what chip it was, maybe the 285, where it came out hobbled, but once they found the problem, released a bios update that allowed it to run on all cores if you added advanced cooling. I was hoping they'd do that with 480's but why should they when they can charge more for the 580??

Edit: The inevitable, one more thing. I'm still surprised that Nvidia has not released a two chip on PCB monster, perhaps because there's no way to kill that kind of heat on a single PCB!
Edited by BriSleep - 1/20/11 at 10:43am
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post #17344 of 28613
One important thing to note on the differences in the ATI/AMD Cards...

I seem to recall that how it was originally...

The 68xx Series, was not and never meant, to be the replacement for the 58xx series.

The 68xx was a replacement of the 57xx Series; which is why the 68xx has less performance then a 58xx; it was meant to be the upgrade from the 57xx.

The 69xx Series, is the replacement for the 58xx Series.

There is, as yet, no replacement plan for the 59xx series. AMD has recently announced a new 67xx Series, which is basically a rebranding of the 57xx; not a replacement, but a rebranding in order for AMD to come out with another "budget card".



Also, unrelated...

I am thinking about removing my Side Panel fans, as they are QUITE noisy, and I am thinking I could do better without them, and putting something quieter behind the front grill in the 5.25 bays.

My only concern is, that I would have those two open vents in the side panel that might have an effect on air flow.

With that in mind, I might be considering replacing that plexi window, with one that has no vents. However, I'm not very good at making custom windows like that; and I KNOW we have some good guides on it on Page 1 though it may be a few weeks before I do anything with it, considering this for part of my Tax Return in the next month or so... and I am thinking I ought have someone else do it, just to make sure its done right and I don't screw it up...

Any suggestions there?
Edited by cjc75 - 1/20/11 at 3:27pm
     
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The 68xx was a replacement of the 57xx Series; which is why the 68xx has less performance then a 58xx; it was meant to be the upgrade from the 57xx.
Totally wrong, the 57xx series continues, the 68xx WAS the replacement for the 58xx series, but in line with AMD's new numbering scheme.

post #17346 of 28613
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Totally wrong, the 57xx series continues, the 68xx WAS the replacement for the 58xx series, but in line with AMD's new numbering scheme.
Not according to countless other sources out there...

First, here is the news on the new 67xx series and how its a rebranding of the 57xx.
http://www.techpowerup.com/132459/AM...00-Series.html
The 57xx is now going the way of the do-do bird. They;re going with an officially rebranded 67xx as a low end bargain/budget card hoping it will sell and they can eventually discontinue the 57xx.

Second, here are just a few, of the various articles on how AMD changed its numbering scheme, and used the 68 to "replace" the 57; and used the 69 to "replace" the 58... In terms of Price+Performance... that was last year. Now that the 68's and 69's have established themselves, now, they're looking for a new "budget card" and so hence the above on the rebranding of the current 57's...

http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/his...-6850-1gb.html
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Instead, AMD decided to keep the 57xx series in the market but reduce it down to a lower tier in the performance/market scale (not a bad thing, because let's face it; the 57xx series are damn good cards). That meant that if they named the new Barts GPU's 67xx, many folks simply wouldn't buy the 57xx series anymore ... because both are mid-range and 67xx is better than 57xx, right? Hence AMD have gone with the 57xx series for the bottom end, the 68xx series for mid-range and by the end of the year, the 69xx series will appear to take the top spots.

http://amd-radeon-hd-6850.digireview.net/
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I am talking about AMD’s new naming scheme, this brand new HD 6800 not coming as a replacement for the previous HD 5800 enthusiast graphics card line, but as a replacement for the HD 5700 series, the Barts GPU that is featured inside the HD 6870 and HD 6850 coming as a performance part in AMD’s graphics product line.
...and straight from right here on OCN!
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...-0-69-0-a.html

Countless articles on that thread alone spell it out; and numerous posters stand by it.
Edited by cjc75 - 1/20/11 at 6:03pm
     
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6870 perform almost the same as the 5870
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6870 perform almost the same as the 5870
Correct. So its not intended to be the replacement, for the 5870... as a replacement, would be an upgrade and offer better performance.

Thats what the 6970 is, an upgrade in performance and therefore a replacement.

The 6870 and the 6850, were intended to be the upgrades, to the original 57xx series.
     
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Scouts help me with this: http://www.overclock.net/ati/920351-...l#post12085343

please !!
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No, no use for that at all. I left it in the box. My PC lives at home and never goes to LAN parties. But for those who do that, it might be useful.
Mine is still in the box too. I like all my stuff to be ready to dissassemble in a moments notice.
    
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