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post #17711 of 28613
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I wonder what it would be like if we had two fans set apart by 1 to 2 inches of distance from one another and then run a A/C duct work system inside the case. It would probably be a Fail at working but I bet that it would get a win in design.



I saw someone trying something like that with their H50. I'm pretty sure it was a fail. They had the their front bottom intake, ducting to the the H50 mounted at the top of the case. I think he was using a Delta as an intake fan.
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wow a delta.. That is a Server Fan.. ouch... that goes back to the overkill theory of dKev.

But I digress.. remember a year or two ago a case manufacturer came out with an Air conditioned case. The A/C was at the bottom front and blew up at a 45 degree angle. I wanted one so bad but they wanted like 799 for the box with the guts in it.


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I saw someone trying something like that with their H50. I'm pretty sure it was a fail. They had the their front bottom intake, ducting to the the H50 mounted at the top of the case. I think he was using a Delta as an intake fan.

IF you will look at the duct work in the picture you will see that it is a completely enclosed system. The input to the fan is at the 12:00 and the out put is at the 9:00
    
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You might see a 1C differential by going to all of that trouble. I seriously doubt you will see much more than that. I've tried similar approaches in the past on other cases and didn't find the results warranted the time involved or the complexity. They used to sell air ducts to allow one to do much of what you are talking about, but they never went over as they just didn't perform as well in real life as the creators thought they would.
Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking someone must have been trying these techniques already. I just havent seen any of these being sold -- then again I guess if it doesn't do much it's not going to go mainstream. o_O

I'm going to have to assume they did something wrong at this point though; otherwise I'm out of a project! hehe

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The duct idea is a good one, I did it myself but with no venturi, mine was more of focusing the air where it did the most good. I am a mechanic by trade and did a little experiment with the AC on cars & trucks, with the fan turned all the way up the temp out of the ducts went up, too much air flow across the evaparator actually heated it up, drop the fan speed one notch and the temp went down, no sure if it will be the same with a cpu cooler though but it would be a cool experiment to find out still.
I like the use of the clear cup. Simple and non-obtrusive. But what about the results? It's not clear: did your experiment show it was redundant; or did you end up gaining efficiency?

Essentially that's what I'm after -- more cooling less fans. I'm thinking the venturi effect + diffusion pump will amplify the wind tunnel results by increasing air speed just through the components while at the same time requiring less fan speed / expense.


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IF you will look at the duct work in the picture you will see that it is a completely enclosed system. The input to the fan is at the 12:00 and the out put is at the 9:00
yeah you are very much thinking along the lines of mechanical engineering now -- which is where I'm coming from. And for sure my design might be flawed (read: probably is); but the general idea is there for the tinkering. One thing to note with the design you pictured is that each bend creates friction in the duct and so reduces efficiency.


On that note I'm actually interested to test out how much air flow could be generated just by the CPU itself -- without the use of fans. While it would be low effect if any -- if it has even a touch it could offer a simple boost to passively cooled systems (since when the system heats up the passive air flow rate will increase in tandem).

I got started on that diagram before and then had to leave for a bit. I'm going to get back at it now.
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well this was more effort than it was worth but anyhow looks like a swanky animation lol (hope the format works)
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post #17716 of 28613
Thats the way to work up the back pressure.. smart. I would still like to get one of those micro Cooler units made for those small igloo coolers and use it to cool a passive system. Like those really nice ones that Thermalright makes for Servers.
    
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well this was more effort than it was worth but anyhow looks like a swanky animation lol (hope the format works)
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well I'm not a mechanical engineer by trade. That's what I meant by 'it's not my speciality.' I've just been working as an adviser to the engineers at YVR for the last year. But if that's good enough for you guys I'll be honoured to join the club!
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well this was more effort than it was worth but anyhow looks like a swanky animation lol (hope the format works)
What heat sink are you planing on trying this with? I'm thinking it will have to be one designed for very low RPM fans and be very small. Here are some problems I for see having to be over come.

1. You are not going to have a lot of CFM's unless you use a fan. I don't think the heat from the heat sink will be enough.
2. I'm not sure if you will be able to create enough pressure with the size of a heat sink.
3.The other problem I see would be with a venturi this size and resistance from the heat sink it would have to be almost air tight. How would you seal it up around the heat sink?

Best of luck, and whether it works or not you should do a build log of this in the cooling experiments section so others can see lessons learned or how to do it right, but keep us posted too.
http://www.overclock.net/cooling-experiments/
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I like the use of the clear cup. Simple and non-obtrusive. But what about the results? It's not clear: did your experiment show it was redundant; or did you end up gaining efficiency?
Yeah I did see a 2 to 3 degree lower cpu temp using this duct vs no duct, I'm doing pretty much the same thing with a Lian Li case with the same results.
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