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post #18791 of 28613
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Originally Posted by nickt1862 View Post
Anticipation........anticipation is making you wait.

BTW: How did it go yesterday? Hopefully well
due to my durango having problems i wasnt able to go. good thing is the mechanic that was suppose to pick it up sunday has finally picked it up this morning..though he cant find what is draining the battery. everything off and lights disconected and still dropping a volt an hour...gotta be a power line shorting out on a ground somewhere.
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due to my durango having problems i wasnt able to go. good thing is the mechanic that was suppose to pick it up sunday has finally picked it up this morning..though he cant find what is draining the battery. everything off and lights disconected and still dropping a volt an hour...gotta be a power line shorting out on a ground somewhere.
Pull one fuse at a time and use a volt meter to see if any power is being uses. You can try pulling the relays under the hood too.
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CM has another great deal on a refurbished ATCS 840 for $99 (retails $199), to bad it's silver and not black or it would be mine.

http://cmstore.coolermaster-usa.com/...roducts_id=463

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post #18794 of 28613
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Originally Posted by FannBlade View Post
Hey can I join the best looking storm contest?
Only thing wrong with it is the front is broken, case bent about 1/2" and doors don't fit other than that it's perfect!!
Thanks Blue Destroyer it is very fixable.



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http://cmstore.coolermaster-usa.com/...roducts_id=485

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post #18795 of 28613
Can we buy panels from other countries, do they send? (if something happens to case )

And I want to share my video with you

Michael Jackson Mega Video Mix 2010 by DJ_OXyGeNe_8

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/vid...v=464604222799

you can also watch my other mixes
Edited by DJ_OXyGeNe_8 - 3/2/11 at 3:12pm
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Nice to know. In case I fudge up the mods I'm planning.

Guess what just arrived?



WOW! This thing is solid! Blue LED = BAD! I've got plenty of red Rosewills tho.
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While not as flashy, the stock fan that comes with that CPU cooler looks like the perfect fan. <20db is quiet, 2000 RPM, 90 cfm.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eam-_-35207004
Those specs are misleading. The 16-20db is at it's lowest 1,000 rpm which would only be about 35-40cfm. At it's full 2,000rpm 90cfm speed the db level is around 45db. CM pulls the same trick with the way they spec out their R4 fans. No fan is even close to being capable of having a 4 or 5 to 1 ratio of cfm to db. The very best might have a 2.5 to 1, but they are rare and expensive. 99% of fans fall into a 2 - 2.2 to 1 ratio or worse. That means if the cfm is 90 the db will be about 45db. It's that simple. Any fan you run across that doesn't fall into that ratio is either posting misleading or blatantly false specs.


Edit:
This is for standard sized fans such as 120 and 140mm. Smaller fans wouldn't be able to meet the 2 to 1 ratio and larger fans like 200mm and up could very well exceed it. Plus there are no standards for where you measure the db. Some do so fairly close to the fan and some try to skew it in their favor by taking the measurement further away. Since they don't tell you in the specs how they arrive at their specs they really don't mean that much.
Edited by PapaSmurf - 3/2/11 at 5:42pm
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Those specs are misleading. THe 16-20db is at it's lowest 1,000 rpm which would only be about 35-40cfm. At it's full 2,000rpm 90cfm speed the db level is around 45db. CM pulls the same trick with the way they spec out their R4 fans. No fan is even close to being capable of having a 4 or 5 to 1 ratio of cfm to db. The very best might have a 2.5 to 1, but they are rare and expensive. 99% of fans fall into a 2 - 2.2 to 1 ratio or worse. That means if the cfm is 90 the db will be about 45db. It's that simple. Any fan you run across that doesn't fall into that ratio is either posting misleading or blatantly false specs.
I wonder what CM does with their megaflow 200mm fans in respect to misleading dba.

Says 19dba but at what speed? Then what's the reality on those 700rpm fans?
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I wonder what CM does with their megaflow 200mm fans in respect to misleading dba.

Says 19dba but at what speed? Then what's the reality on those 700rpm fans?
That was for standard sized fans such as 120 and 140mm. Smaller fans wouldn't be able to meet the 2 to 1 ratio and larger fans like 200mm and up could very well exceed it. Plus there are no standards for where you measure the db. Some do so fairly close to the fan and some try to skew it in their favor by taking the measurement further away. Since they don't tell you in the specs how they arrive at their specs they really don't mean that much. I edited my post to reflect that.

To some extant though the actual db level could very well be the same as with a 120 or 140mm fan, but due to the larger diameter it's at a lower register than a 120 would be so the perception is lower. Some of the old timers will remember the good old 38 Delta fans that were used on higher end heatsinks back in the P3 and Socket 462 Athlon days. Those 60mm 38cfm Delta Black Label fans spun at app 6,800 rpms with a db level of about 48db. It sounded considerably louder though due to the high pitched whine it had compared to a San Ace 120 at 46db with it's lower pitch. Technically they are close enough to the same volume level, but the smaller 60mm Delta sounds ten times louder than the 120mm San Ace. A 200mm or larger fan will be even less noticeable at the same db level.
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
Those specs are misleading. The 16-20db is at it's lowest 1,000 rpm which would only be about 35-40cfm. At it's full 2,000rpm 90cfm speed the db level is around 45db. CM pulls the same trick with the way they spec out their R4 fans. No fan is even close to being capable of having a 4 or 5 to 1 ratio of cfm to db. The very best might have a 2.5 to 1, but they are rare and expensive. 99% of fans fall into a 2 - 2.2 to 1 ratio or worse. That means if the cfm is 90 the db will be about 45db. It's that simple. Any fan you run across that doesn't fall into that ratio is either posting misleading or blatantly false specs.


Edit:
This is for standard sized fans such as 120 and 140mm. Smaller fans wouldn't be able to meet the 2 to 1 ratio and larger fans like 200mm and up could very well exceed it. Plus there are no standards for where you measure the db. Some do so fairly close to the fan and some try to skew it in their favor by taking the measurement further away. Since they don't tell you in the specs how they arrive at their specs they really don't mean that much.
Great point. If one spec is misleading, then you can't rely on any of the stated specs. It had me scratching my head and asking myself why that fan never came up on my radar screen.
    
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