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post #19151 of 28613
With water cooling side panel fans should probably blow in to provide some airflow around the ram and mosfets.
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Originally Posted by Rockr69 View Post
reverse the flow of the top and rad fan.
Reverse the top yes. Hot air rises. Rad fan must be cooled with coolest air witch is outside of the case. I would reverse the side panel fans for cooler airflow over the chipset.

But if he want push/pull which I agree is best for the Hydros, he need to find a place for them to fit. A lot of peeps have trouble with the H70+ 2 fans (75 mm) fitting on the back.
    
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post #19153 of 28613
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Originally Posted by cigarbug View Post
Drinking night, but here goes...
I am not familiar with the obstruction of the EVGA board, but many have installed the Hydros in the 5.25 bays as an alternative.

Is the Mofset the obstruction?
Its the tower cooler for the voltage regulation that gets in the way.

post #19154 of 28613
Then it is the 5 1/4 bays to the rescue.

Unless you want to mount it all outside the back of the case.
Edited by Enigma8750 - 3/11/11 at 8:39pm
    
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Originally Posted by ApexScalpel View Post
Its the tower cooler for the voltage regulation that gets in the way.

Wow. They moved the heatsink to the Voltage regulator/MOFSET on that board. EVGA can't handle success I guess.

The H70 can be mounted in the 5.25 bays, if you don't need the space. Browse the Scout gallery (links on first page of this thread) to get some ideas.

I had an H-50 on an EVGA 780i Sli push/pull, but the heatsink was on the NB.
    
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Then it is the 5 1/4 bays to the rescue.

Unless you want to mount it all outside the back of the case.
There is a lot of space there, I wish I had thought of that before. Thank you!

Now I won't have time to work on that until next weekend (3 deadlines this week) so what would be the best reconfiguration of the fans I can do?

Both side fans blowing in, the top fan blowing out and up and the front blowing out?

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Reverse the top yes. Hot air rises.
The concept of Hot Air Rises has absolutely NO place when it comes to ACTIVE computer case cooling. While it is a fact that hot air does rise, it does so at such a minuscule rate that once you have ANY fan moving more than 2 or 3 cfm in a case the effects of natural hot air rising will be totally and completely over ridden making it a complete non-factor. It's only relevant when you have a completely PASSIVE computer case with absolutely NO fans whatsoever. People really need to ignore the entire hot air rising concept as all if does it cause people to try to factor it into their cooling systems and quite often go with a less effective configuration trying to accommodate it. Do yourself and everyone else a HUGE favor and NEVER mention or even think about hot air rising in respect to computer cooling. It will only mess you up and cause problems.
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The concept of Hot Air Rises has absolutely NO place when it comes to ACTIVE computer case cooling. While it is a fact that hot air does rise, it does so at such a minuscule rate that once you have ANY fan moving more than 2 or 3 cfm in a case the effects of natural hot air rising will be totally and completely over ridden making it a complete non-factor. It's only relevant when you have a completely PASSIVE computer case with absolutely NO fans whatsoever. People really need to ignore the entire hot air rising concept as all if does it cause people to try to factor it into their cooling systems and quite often go with a less effective configuration trying to accommodate it. Do yourself and everyone else a HUGE favor and NEVER mention or even think about hot air rising in respect to computer cooling. It will only mess you up and cause problems.
I respectfully disagree, Papa.

1. The lower intake at the front of the scout 1 x 140 mm together with the default 1 x 120 mm side panel intake is matched with the same fans top and rear in exhaust. If airflow is in balance, cool air being denser than hot air must be pushed upward. Vacuum effect.

Cool air in from the low points and out at the high points. That's Cooler Master's design, not mine.

2. Airflow not in balance will conflict with the above.

3. In theory, that flow can be altered by shifting fan positions, type, sizes, pressure, etc, to achieve a desired flow, but you would have to over power one side to compensate for the other.

4. The only analogy that comes to mind is that if your theory is correct, then a hot air balloon cannot fly on a cold & windy day.

5. Your criticism seemed pretty harsh.
    
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I respectfully disagree, Papa.

1. The lower intake at the front of the scout 1 x 140 mm together with the default 1 x 120 mm side panel intake is matched with the same fans top and rear in exhaust. If airflow is in balance, cool air being denser than hot air must be pushed upward. Vacuum effect.

Cool air in from the low points and out at the high points. That's Cooler Master's design, not mine.

2. Airflow not in balance will conflict with the above.

3. In theory, that flow can be altered by shifting fan positions, type, sizes, pressure, etc, to achieve a desired flow, but you would have to over power one side to compensate for the other.

4. The only analogy that comes to mind is that if your theory is correct, then a hot air balloon cannot fly on a cold & windy day.

5. Your criticism seemed pretty harsh.
I kinda have to agree. In my lian-li, I have 1 front fan and 1 rear fan. The top of my case is always warm to the touch while the bottom(even right under the psu) is cool to the touch. If your theory is correct the front half of my case would be cool and the rear half would be warm. Now in my scout with side, rear, top, and front fans I really doubt my temps would change all that much making the front and side exhaust and the top and rear the intake but I bet there would still be a difference in temps. Maybe only 1c, but any difference would mean your theory is wrong. With ENOUGH air flow, hot air rising theory could be beaten but that would take some high cfm fans and its not very realistic.
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The top of the case is warmer because you have hot componants (the cpu, ram, vrms, mosfets, etc.) that create much of the heat in a system. It has very little, if anything to do with warm air rising.

And it doesn't take more than a few cfm's to counteract the effect of natural heat rising. Place a 5cfm fan at the top blowing down and it would overpower the natural effect completely. I know to some people it doesn't sound right, but it is a fact and has been proven time and time again. The reason that case airflow is normally from lower front to upper rear is NOT due to natural heat rising, but because in the original AT and ATX specifications the PSU which is mounted in the upper rear was used as the main exhaust component and the lower front was the furthest away from that so as to create the most effective airflow pattern. The upper rear in tower cases was NOT chosen for the PSU as there were no towers when the first AT specification was created. Cases where what is now called a desktop case (horizontal rather than vertical) with the PSU at the rear right. This had a airflow designed for front left to rear right. When they created tower cases they flipped the right to the top putting the psu on top, not the bottom. This was NOT due to the natural hot air rising phenomenon, but due to a lot of monitors plugging into the PSU for their power instead of directly into the wall. Having the PSU at the top allowed for a shorter cord for the monitor.

But in the end anyone who thinks that natural hot air rising is anything to be concerned with or needs to be taken into account when actively cooling personal computers is fooling themselves. It simply isn't so and isn't any more valid that the ideal size for a Windows swap (page) file is 1.5 times the amount of physical ram in a computer, one of computing's other prevalent Myths that unknowing users continue to perpetuate.
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