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post #23231 of 28613
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Hi Darkstar,

Thank you so much for those diagrams, it really makes sense to me now. I think the bottom diagram is a bit of overkill for me at the moment (especially with my limited knowledge), although it will be worth keeping for future reference.

With regards to the top diagram, it seems like a really simple swap, just move the red wires from the red side into the yellow side and that's it. Not wanting to complicate things further, but if I wanted to add just one more LED on/off fan to the set-up what would I need to do with regards to the wiring? Would I be able to just tap into one of the new fans wiring and "piggy back" off that (as in the pic below) or would I need a separate resistor to wire in?

Many thanks again,

Jamie

yep thats it
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Excellent, thanks for that. I wasn't sure if running two led fans off the same resistor would cause a problem. Also I presume that it won't affect the resistors that I'm now running the switch on 12V instead of 5V?

I will see if I have time to test all this at the weekend and post back with my results. Hopefully I don't blow anything up in the process!

Cheers,

Jamie
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Right Im Back

I have finished some diagrams using ye old ms paint (dont laugh at my weak skills with paint)



as you can see I have simply moved the red wire on the female molex plug to the yellow 12v side of the plug. I recommend you use a paper clip and simply pull out the pins from the plug and change its location to this image, it would look much neater and will also guarantee a solid connection with no risk of shorting out....google "how to sleeve cables" and there will be videos on how to remove pins if you are not sure.




Now if you want to run a 12v lighting circuit whilst maintaining the 5v circuit you will need to invest in a solid state relay. This device will allow the 5v circuit to switch on the 12v circuit whilst keeping the two circuits separate and as it is placed on the output of cm storm scout lighting switch it can all be controlled by the press of the magic button.

I have also done a simple circuit to show how you would typically connect this to the current system.


you would also need to purchase a couple of extra resistors to help prevent and L.E.D's from blowing.

I hope that clears the confusion and let me know if my diagrams are wrong/don't make sense.
Excellent diagram and explanation, Rep+!
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Excellent, thanks for that. I wasn't sure if running two led fans off the same resistor would cause a problem. Also I presume that it won't affect the resistors that I'm now running the switch on 12V instead of 5V?

I will see if I have time to test all this at the weekend and post back with my results. Hopefully I don't blow anything up in the process!

Cheers,

Jamie
It should be fine as L.E.D's draw very little power but without knowing you exact specs for the lights I couldn't really say....if in doubt pick up a 1k resistor from a electrical store for pennies.
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Excellent diagram and explanation, Rep+!
Thank you I wasn't sure if I made it clear enough...started looking like a London underground map to me
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i figure i better ask this while its still fresh in your mind, although i won't be attempting it anytime soon. (not nearly enough tools here in my dorm room =/) i plan to add another LED fan to the door of the case and i also want to attempt strikers wind tunnel mod using LED fans. could i use that same wire split method to control the lights or would i have to go the extremely hard looking way with the relay..
if it makes any difference i can do without the fan on the door
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i figure i better ask this while its still fresh in your mind, although i won't be attempting it anytime soon. (not nearly enough tools here in my dorm room =/) i plan to add another LED fan to the door of the case and i also want to attempt strikers wind tunnel mod using LED fans. could i use that same wire split method to control the lights or would i have to go the extremely hard looking way with the relay..
if it makes any difference i can do without the fan on the door
Again without knowing the specs of the fans I wouldn't know.

Personally I would say the relay system is a far better option if you plan on adding a ton of 12v lights to the circuit as it would put next to no stress on the switch and it would be far less likely to burn it out as well.

The Relay system I drew is really not that complicated....if you follow it with you finger you will see it only requires you adding two extra wires, a +12v (in yellow) and an Earth for the return on your 12v system(its in purple in my diagram but in real life you would make it black)

Wiring up the relay would also be a walk in the park. As you can see from this example there is only 4 pins to connect and all you are doing is adding them in-line.


5V ON = 12V ON
5V OFF = 12V OFF




Also using a relay would allow for other 12v devices to be able to be switched on and off at will like the inverters from a cold cathode....and depending on what relay you use you could even create a circuit that could switch on and off a 110/230v ac device like your speakers or even your desk lamp...all from the touch of a button from your rig.
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in the other diagram the purple doesn't actually connect to the relay though, it connects to the molex... would i have to connect it to the relay or just follow the first diagram and be a happy camper. forgive me for taking so long to understand this i'm a complete noob at wiring...
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Did some wire management clean up on my Scout.

I think I'm getting to the point of diminishing returns... not many places left to hide wires.





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in the other diagram the purple doesn't actually connect to the relay though, it connects to the molex... would i have to connect it to the relay or just follow the first diagram and be a happy camper. forgive me for taking so long to understand this i'm a complete noob at wiring...
No you are right.. The purple doesn't go through the relay but you need a negative (earth) for the return on any circuit otherwise it will not work.

Think of DC current like connecting a bulb to a AA battery if you only connect the positive side, the bulb will not light up, it is only when you complete the circuit the bulb lights up.

Now think of my relay circuit in the same way...sure you have power from the molex plug through the relay to the lights but without a negative to return nothing would work. So that is why we add the second purple wire to return everything back to earth.

You could connect the earth to the black wire already in place to simplify things but that would mean two different voltages having a common earth and from my experience that's never a good thing
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well thanks for the help so far +rep, i've bookmarked this page for when i actually attempt this. if i get lost during the process i'll be sure to post though
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