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post #25741 of 28613
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Originally Posted by GoodInk View Post

We did this are work all the time so we could run 2 monitors. The crap PC's would die and we would snag the card out of it to do it. Granted these were AGP and not PCI cards. You might end up taking a hit in fps in games running it this way, but not by much if any.

Problem is that neither amd or nvidia drivers would recognise the second monitor or graphics card to allow for extended desktop across the screens... So at best all you could do is have a monitor that displays the same image as first one. (tried this before and failed myself)

If you was to remove the nvidia software off of your system and just run it through windows drivers.. it may recognise the extra screen to run extended desktop.. But you would be severely crippled in gaming as your card would be poorly optimised without the proper drivers etc.

If you do get it working let me know as I have a render card sat in my desk draw that I want to but have never used.... I love gaming over work too much tongue.gif
Edited by darkstar585 - 6/17/12 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by GoodInk View Post

We did this at work all the time so we could run 2 monitors. The crap PC's would die and we would snag the card out of it to do it. Granted these were AGP and not PCI cards. You might end up taking a hit in fps in games running it this way, but not by much if any.

are you referring to the potential lose of FPS due to go from 16x to 8x?

That and when ever you add more it adds more stress too the system making it lees efficient. Kinda like the more memory sticks you add the less you can OC. Plus what darkstar585 said about drivers.

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Originally Posted by GoodInk View Post

We did this are work all the time so we could run 2 monitors. The crap PC's would die and we would snag the card out of it to do it. Granted these were AGP and not PCI cards. You might end up taking a hit in fps in games running it this way, but not by much if any.

Problem is that neither amd or nvidia drivers would recognise the second monitor or graphics card to allow for extended desktop across the screens... So at best all you could do is have a monitor that displays the same image as first one. (tried this before and failed myself)

If you was to remove the nvidia software off of your system and just run it through windows drivers.. it may recognise the extra screen to run extended desktop.. But you would be severely crippled in gaming as your card would be poorly optimised without the proper drivers etc.

If you do get it working let me know as I have a render card sat in my desk draw that I want to but have never used.... I love gaming over work too much tongue.gif

After doing some reading, you can still do this with PCI at least with AMD you can. Windows will see both monitors and will run them as separate screens instead of one large screen. So when gaming you will have one screen with the game and the other with desktop, browser, media player, ect. You do have to keep then as the same brand and they have to be able to run off the same driver sets. Like you can use an old card that isn't supported any more with a newer card. But I do agree, it really isn't worth it if you can do it with one card. You'll be pulling more power over all, and your system will run hotter. I'm not 100% sure if your cards will run in power saver mode or not. The only time you really would want to go this route is if you have 2 cards that only have one out put, if they even make cards like that anymore.
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That and when ever you add more it adds more stress too the system making it lees efficient. Kinda like the more memory sticks you add the less you can OC. Plus what darkstar585 said about drivers.
After doing some reading, you can still do this with PCI at least with AMD you can. Windows will see both monitors and will run them as separate screens instead of one large screen. So when gaming you will have one screen with the game and the other with desktop, browser, media player, ect. You do have to keep then as the same brand and they have to be able to run off the same driver sets. Like you can use an old card that isn't supported any more with a newer card. But I do agree, it really isn't worth it if you can do it with one card. You'll be pulling more power over all, and your system will run hotter. I'm not 100% sure if your cards will run in power saver mode or not. The only time you really would want to go this route is if you have 2 cards that only have one out put, if they even make cards like that anymore.

well, i think it's worth a $25 test. my local Fry's has a GT 210 1GB on sale for $24.99 after MIR. I'll try to swing up there today and pick it up. if i get it today, i'll post both temps and 3dmark scores (for my main card) with and without it in, just to see.
    
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ok, drum roll please!

so i was able to pick up the card at fry's (last one btw, ordering online before you go get it FTW!). i booted up my machine, let it sit for 1 minute, then launched HW monitor, minimized that and ran 3dmark06. as soon as that finished i got my score and took a screen shot of the score and the temps. after that, i shut down the machine and installed the gt 210. again i booted up the machine, let it sit for 1 minute, launched HW monitor, minimized that and ran 3dmark06. as soon as that finished, i got my score for the second run and the temps, so here you go!

SINGLE:
singlecard.jpg

2 CARDS:
dual.jpg

so, to sum up, we are looking at a difference of 162 3dmarks (well within the variance of the test itself), and a drop in main gpu temps of 14C at load, and 15C at idle, as well as a 1C to 4C drop in cpu temps (this because the main GPU and cpu are on the same water loop). with the information in hand, i can say this is WELL worth the $25 cost of the second card. thoughts?
    
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a little preview of what i'm going to be doing with my case over the next few weeks, will be borrowing a friends old CM Elite whilst i get busy, expect a very different looking Scout when i'm done wink.gif

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ok, drum roll please!
so i was able to pick up the card at fry's (last one btw, ordering online before you go get it FTW!). i booted up my machine, let it sit for 1 minute, then launched HW monitor, minimized that and ran 3dmark06. as soon as that finished i got my score and took a screen shot of the score and the temps. after that, i shut down the machine and installed the gt 210. again i booted up the machine, let it sit for 1 minute, launched HW monitor, minimized that and ran 3dmark06. as soon as that finished, i got my score for the second run and the temps, so here you go!
SINGLE:
singlecard.jpg
2 CARDS:
dual.jpg
so, to sum up, we are looking at a difference of 162 3dmarks (well within the variance of the test itself), and a drop in main gpu temps of 14C at load, and 15C at idle, as well as a 1C to 4C drop in cpu temps (this because the main GPU and cpu are on the same water loop). with the information in hand, i can say this is WELL worth the $25 cost of the second card. thoughts?

Well I am impressed as I couldn't get this to work at all with my firepro v5900 and 7970...as soon as I enabled gpu acceleration within 3ds max it would lock my system up redface.gif probably due to the differences in the cards drivers but who knows.

Have you tried running a taxing game like crysis/arma/metro 2033 on it yet? Also did you get extended desktop to Function?

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Well I am impressed as I couldn't get this to work at all with my firepro v5900 and 7970...as soon as I enabled gpu acceleration within 3ds max it would lock my system up redface.gif probably due to the differences in the cards drivers but who knows.
Have you tried running a taxing game like crysis/arma/metro 2033 on it yet? Also did you get extended desktop to Function?
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I played SWTOR for about 2 hours, and had mumble, HW monitor and a parser running on the second monitor, no problems at all. i am able to slide windows from one monitor to there other without any delays or any other issues. all and all, i've very happy with the turn out.
    
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ok, drum roll please!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
so i was able to pick up the card at fry's (last one btw, ordering online before you go get it FTW!). i booted up my machine, let it sit for 1 minute, then launched HW monitor, minimized that and ran 3dmark06. as soon as that finished i got my score and took a screen shot of the score and the temps. after that, i shut down the machine and installed the gt 210. again i booted up the machine, let it sit for 1 minute, launched HW monitor, minimized that and ran 3dmark06. as soon as that finished, i got my score for the second run and the temps, so here you go!

SINGLE:
singlecard.jpg

2 CARDS:
dual.jpg

so, to sum up, we are looking at a difference of 162 3dmarks (well within the variance of the test itself), and a drop in main gpu temps of 14C at load, and 15C at idle, as well as a 1C to 4C drop in cpu temps (this because the main GPU and cpu are on the same water loop). with the information in hand, i can say this is WELL worth the $25 cost of the second card.
thoughts?

I'm glad it worked out for you, and wow I never knew a second monitor taxed the GPU that much.

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Originally Posted by AliasOfMyself View Post

a little preview of what i'm going to be doing with my case over the next few weeks, will be borrowing a friends old CM Elite whilst i get busy, expect a very different looking Scout when i'm done wink.gif

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Am I looking at a purple Scout here?

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Originally Posted by darkstar585 View Post


Well I am impressed as I couldn't get this to work at all with my firepro v5900 and 7970...as soon as I enabled gpu acceleration within 3ds max it would lock my system up redface.gifprobably due to the differences in the cards drivers but who knows.



100% correct, the pro cards are a completely different beast.
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Your build looks killer!

Thanks! It was my second scout build and it came out much better than what I expected.
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Am I looking at a purple Scout here?

very likely yes, but you'll have to wait and see tongue.gif i'm using metallic paint too, not gloss, i've not decided what i'm going to do with the plastic parts yet(handles and front).
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