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Poll Results: What is your Overall Opinion on this case

 
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  • 5% (108)
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post #4491 of 28613
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Originally Posted by BriSleep View Post
Ok, I'm a trained engineer. I can make a steel girder bridge, I can make a timber trestle bridge from cutting down trees and I can make just about anything into a square, whether it's meant to or not!
However, while I do understand a lot about case airflow I just did something that is not in the grand design of this case.

Air is supposed to come in from the bottom front, from the bottom where the PSU is and from the front of the case in general. If you so desire, you can also make it come in from the side panel.
It's supposed to go out the rear and the top. Anyone disagree, let me know. I couldn't fit an air cooler that was adequate enough in the case on this expensive motherboard so I put in an H50 cooler.
Now, air comes in the bottom front, if the bottom grid and the PSU is pretty self contained it goes in the bottom and out it's own back, it's got a rubber seal around it, so it doesn't leak. Here's the problem, the coolest way to mount the H50 is so the air come in the back of the case through the radiator, so I took that fan that came with the case and hung it in the front, until I get one of those acrylic supports. That fan now blows out the front.
So I have air coming in bottom front, top rear and through the grids next to the PCI cards right. Air exhausts out the front and top. So, my problem is, which way should the fans in the window point? To my engineering brain it seems the bottom should blow in and the top out. That also doesn't make sense because I'm blowing out air that just came in through the bottom. Is this right or do I have tired brain syndrome from routing all these cables and stuff?
I hope Enigma comes on tonight, he's good at this air stuff.
When I had my case set up with 4 R4 fans, 2 intake and 2 exhaust and a fan controler I found my temps dropped a few degrees with the 2 front intake fans set at 1500 rpm's and the rear and top exhaust set at 900 rpm's (positive pressure), I don't know what having the H-50 will do to change the pressures, because every case has a diffrent air flow pattern, experimenting with direction and speed will be your best bet.
I know on my Lian-Li I have 2 front intake fans, both 140mm and push pull set up with a 25mm duct on the push fan set to exhaust it stays nice and cool, about 30c with a ambiant of 23c.
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Originally Posted by BriSleep View Post
Ok, I'm a trained engineer. I can make a steel girder bridge, I can make a timber trestle bridge from cutting down trees and I can make just about anything into a square, whether it's meant to or not!
However, while I do understand a lot about case airflow I just did something that is not in the grand design of this case.

Air is supposed to come in from the bottom front, from the bottom where the PSU is and from the front of the case in general. If you so desire, you can also make it come in from the side panel.
It's supposed to go out the rear and the top. Anyone disagree, let me know. I couldn't fit an air cooler that was adequate enough in the case on this expensive motherboard so I put in an H50 cooler.
Now, air comes in the bottom front, if the bottom grid and the PSU is pretty self contained it goes in the bottom and out it's own back, it's got a rubber seal around it, so it doesn't leak. Here's the problem, the coolest way to mount the H50 is so the air come in the back of the case through the radiator, so I took that fan that came with the case and hung it in the front, until I get one of those acrylic supports. That fan now blows out the front.
So I have air coming in bottom front, top rear and through the grids next to the PCI cards right. Air exhausts out the front and top. So, my problem is, which way should the fans in the window point? To my engineering brain it seems the bottom should blow in and the top out. That also doesn't make sense because I'm blowing out air that just came in through the bottom. Is this right or do I have tired brain syndrome from routing all these cables and stuff?
I hope Enigma comes on tonight, he's good at this air stuff.
I would say, and by no means does my opinion mean all that much, if you're gonna use the side fans use them both as intakes then turn the H50 fan around and exhaust it out the back. Turn around the the fan you have hung in your 5.25" bays and have it as an intake. With four intake fans and two exhaust ( three if you go with the push pull on the H50) you should be able to achieve positive pressure and frosty temps. That way the ventilated area to the left of the pci slots (looking from inside the case) will help to exhaust as well.

Laminar airflow is the best. The air needs to be moving in a singular motion to achieve the best results. In the front out the back and top.

Again, just my opinion. Cheers!
    
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I would say, and by no means does my opinion mean all that much, if you're gonna use the side fans use them both as intakes then turn the H50 fan around and exhaust it out the back. Turn around the the fan you have hung in your 5.25" bays and have it as an intake. With four intake fans and two exhaust ( three if you go with the push pull on the H50) you should be able to achieve positive pressure and frosty temps. That way the ventilated area to the left of the pci slots (looking from inside the case) will help to exhaust as well.

Laminar airflow is the best. The air needs to be moving in a singular motion to achieve the best results. In the front out the back and top.

Again, just my opinion. Cheers!
Thanks for you opinion. I do value the words of a fellow old school person. Notice I didn't call us old. I agree, this is the way I originally thought it should go, then I saw that video on the Corsair site.
Nite all, hope to be back on a better day.
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Thanks for you opinion. I do value the words of a fellow old school person. Notice I didn't call us old. I agree, this is the way I originally thought it should go, then I saw that video on the Corsair site.
Nite all, hope to be back on a better day.
Yeah cool vid, but you have to remember that Corsair is using that giant of a case, the 800D, with it's triple 120 top opening so it can vent much more hot air out the top than can our Scouts. I mean it's like the brass in the rear with the gear tellin' the guys on the front how to deal with problems they're never gonna see.

Lab results hardly ever yield the same results as good old field work.

Thanks for not calling us old, though everyday I'm feeling a little more close.
    
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Wait, OCN accounts aren't free?????

I made mine in 2007, so I don't know.
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Wait, OCN accounts aren't free?????

I made mine in 2007, so I don't know.
We have the ability to buy an Overclocked Account, or we can just wait for our 1-year Anniversary to get it for free. But I think there's a minimum Reputation point count too.
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I dunno what I did to deserve it, since I mainly ask stupid questions here, but I got some rep
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We have the ability to buy an Overclocked Account, or we can just wait for our 1-year Anniversary to get it for free. But I think there's a minimum Reputation point count too.
Yes there is a minimum of 250Rep and 1 Year Anniversary before you get Upgraded to Overclocked Acc
    
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Brilliant I agree, but... Isn't the hole in the bottom of the front panel for more than just pulling it off? Isn't (like on many other cases) a way for the fan to suck cool air up from underneath and blow it into the case?
I guess as long as your temps are right for you it doesn't matter how much you block cooling vents.

The guys on my DS forums are very against doing anything for sound dampening because blocking noise blocks air, blocking air increases internal heat, increasing internal heat stresses components. Ergo leave it all open the way the case builder intended.
I haven't experienced any higher temps than before I did this. I figured the complete front was vented and it probably wouldn't make any difference in airflow. Anyway so far so good, and the diff in dust is amazing.
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Ok, I'm a trained engineer. I can make a steel girder bridge, I can make a timber trestle bridge from cutting down trees and I can make just about anything into a square, whether it's meant to or not!
However, while I do understand a lot about case airflow I just did something that is not in the grand design of this case.

Air is supposed to come in from the bottom front, from the bottom where the PSU is and from the front of the case in general. If you so desire, you can also make it come in from the side panel.
It's supposed to go out the rear and the top. Anyone disagree, let me know. I couldn't fit an air cooler that was adequate enough in the case on this expensive motherboard so I put in an H50 cooler.
Now, air comes in the bottom front, if the bottom grid and the PSU is pretty self contained it goes in the bottom and out it's own back, it's got a rubber seal around it, so it doesn't leak. Here's the problem, the coolest way to mount the H50 is so the air come in the back of the case through the radiator, so I took that fan that came with the case and hung it in the front, until I get one of those acrylic supports. That fan now blows out the front.
So I have air coming in bottom front, top rear and through the grids next to the PCI cards right. Air exhausts out the front and top. So, my problem is, which way should the fans in the window point? To my engineering brain it seems the bottom should blow in and the top out. That also doesn't make sense because I'm blowing out air that just came in through the bottom. Is this right or do I have tired brain syndrome from routing all these cables and stuff?
I hope Enigma comes on tonight, he's good at this air stuff.

Yea. Go for the Fans sucking into the case from the side. the more positive air flow you have into the case the more it has to get out some way. I think there is a way you make your top fan run on 17 Vdc but You will have to Google it. That will bring your top fan up to Maximum velocity.
    
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