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post #5511 of 28613
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I have a WD Hard drive that cause a complete short in my system. I have no Idea what caused it but I had so family video. Any Ideas Men.. Short in the electrical. Pops the PSU everytime I plug in the sata power wire.
Are you sharing any other devices on that lead and is your PSU modular? If it is have tried any other power ports?
    
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I have a WD Hard drive that cause a complete short in my system. I have no Idea what caused it but I had so family video. Any Ideas Men.. Short in the electrical. Pops the PSU everytime I plug in the sata power wire.
If it's not the Sata power connector and the connector on the drive is clean it could be on the controller. The works can be replaced by finding another drive of the same model. Take off the controller from the non running drive, being carefull of the ribbon cable, then getting the controller off the running drive and swapping them, once the data is transferred you can solder the connectors onto the drive you will keep.

// That's from memory but because it's been faulty lately I actually looked in "the book". If you're sure of the power connections you can test where it meets the logic board to see if the power is reaching it with the correct current. He does state however that more often than not a hard drive failure is the fault of the logic board, so what I stated is right. The hardest part with modern drives is getting one of those star shaped wrenches that mount the board. Looking at my WD drives, all the boards are attached directly to the power connector so even the mechanics are powered through the board. Makes sense seeing how everything is so energy concious now.
Good luck General!

Rockr, I used to always buy WD drives then got money aware and bought first Maxtor drives, then Seagate because not only are they less expensive but run cooler (found out temp doesn't matter much). I have both Seagate and WD in mine and Mindys case but I have great doubts about the Seagates as 2 external backup drives that I had for just over 1 year (the warranty period) both died. I've had a WD My Book that has been going for over 4 years now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-071-_-Product This is what I have now, using a WD 320 Blue drive to back up my SSD's and an identical WD 1Tb to back up the one inside the case. I "clone" the drives using Acronis True Image, that way if one dies it can be swapped out with the other. Can't do that with the SSD's though because they're Raid0 so I do a Data backup, omitting only the temp files, hiberfil.sys & pagefile.sys. The unit sits behind my monitor so I don't even see it and since it has an on off button the drives only run when I do a backup, since they're ESata it's really fast to back up and verify the backup.
Oh, Green drives run at 5400 and the controller handles the power instead of leaving it up to you, the My Book version runs at a variable speed between the two, Blue drives are less durable versions of the Black and the Black that are more expensive for the same size are usually Enterprise drives, they'll take lots of abuse.
Edited by BriSleep - 2/14/10 at 2:53pm
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Are you sharing any other devices on that lead and is your PSU modular? If it is have tried any other power ports?
Yes, I tried the obvious. Remember. I was went to high school trade school for electronics. I worked as an Electrician for the last 3 years of my military career and I have put 17 systems together.

So. Yes.. It is a modular
yes.........I tried it with another PSU. Same Shut down of PSU.
There is a short and it happened after I grounded out a fan wire.
    
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If it's not the Sata power connector and the connector on the drive is clean it could be on the controller. The works can be replaced by finding another drive of the same model. Take off the controller from the non running drive, being carefully of the ribbon cable, then getting the controller off the running drive and swapping them, once the data is transferred you can solder the connectors onto the drive you will keep.

// That's from memory but because it's been faulty lately I actually looked in "the book". If you're sure of the power connections you can test where it meets the logic board to see if the power is reaching it with the correct current. He does state however that more often than not a hard drive failure is the fault of the logic board, so what I stated is right. The hardest part with modern drives is getting one of those star shaped wrenches that mount the board. Looking at my WD drives, all the boards are attached directly to the power connector so even the mechanics are powered through the board. Makes sense seeing how everything is so energy conscious now.
Good luck General!
This is what I am going to do. This is something that others have advised and I will be going this route. Thanks for the Confirmation.
    
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I wasn't implying you hadn't done the obvious E, It's just that we all have wandered around in the garage looking for that wrench we just had for an hour only to discover it was in our back pocket. Sounds like Bri has got you covered .

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy parts like logic boards and such for just such an occasion.
    
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The hardest part with modern drives is getting one of those star shaped wrenches that mount the board.
$15 bucks + some change at ACE.Attachment 141733 and if it's the torx head screw with the pin in the middle just get a small enough standard screwdriver and slip it in the head of the screw, twist and break out the pin.
    
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Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy parts like logic boards and such for just such an occasion.
Of course I edited your quote, if you new guys don't know yet, I do that.

As for the logic boards, it makes me go Hmmmmm. I gave about 10 years worth of parts and bits and pieces left over from projects to the community college. Maybe if you don't want to buy a logic board that's a good place to start, there's also business schools and trade schools, not even adding in that there may be connections to these parts through members of Unions.
Then, maybe that's why I was always hanging on to every failed drive, optical hard and even one USB powered. Then I didn't see the sense in having an 8Gb, 20Gb, 30Gb and 5 Pata optical drives, the community college gang had a field day with all my parts and came up with a total of 6 workable computers -monitors.

I still have 3 hard drives 2 optical 2 failed Seagate Sata hard drives and an external Seagate backup. Hmmmm parts....... If you can't find a matching drive to do the controller transfer you could always post on boards or search on e-bay and others for just the logic board. Things I still have..... An '88, 8Mhz macintosh with 2 "super floppies" an 80Gb hard drive and all the guts. Hmm, a mac in a Scout case, you could actually put the monitor in the front of the case & run a modern PC setup in the same case.

Speaking of which, no one answered me about if they ported the PS3 through the Scout system. I think that was an AMD build.

The first computer I upgraded, a 386 DX/40 motherboard, it's ram chips and a few connector boards, no case. A 286Sx, if you remember this beast, it was advertised as Windows 2.0 compatible because it would "emulate" a 386 processor (the first 32 bit), run Windows >HA!< I can't imagine booting it and waiting about 1/2 hour for Windows to load. Oh, it came in what they affectionately called a "pizza box" style case with a riser off the mobo. I have a Pentium 3 processor, no heatsink, no cover, just the processor on the slot PCB. Man that baby was fast at running DOS4GW games. I have a box for a Tyan motherboard and the L3 ram chip that sat on the mobo, wow, can't remember what it ran.
We almost bought a pre-built 486 that was close to $4000-. The heck with that I said, I built a Pentium for about $1200- with all the bells and whistles and software!

Finally I have a mess of 1Mb Simms, they fetch quite the pretty penny now because they work great in old business printers. I'll sell when they hit $50- each.

Is there a memory lane board on OCN? I think I need to find out.
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$15 bucks + some change at ACE.Attachment 141733 and if it's the torx head screw with the pin in the middle just get a small enough standard screwdriver and slip it in the head of the screw, twist and break out the pin.
Yeah, I figured out the torx a few years ago, that's about when they switched to these star shaped deals. Can you believe the ACE hardware stores failed here? The only one left sells furniture, claims it has hardware because they have paint & minor things. I have to go to Lowes to get a For Sale sign for the trailer, will look for the stars there.

Any of you ever put the plexi in for the top of the drive so you can see the action? I did it with an old Maxtor 30Gb, pretty useless when you can't see it once it's in the case, of course it didn't run too long after I modded it, but it was fun.
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I wasn't implying you hadn't done the obvious E, It's just that we all have wandered around in the garage looking for that wrench we just had for an hour only to discover it was in our back pocket. Sounds like Bri has got you covered .

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy parts like logic boards and such for just such an occasion.
you are so right ... I was not being defensive but it sure sounded that way. I got a cool set of torx at the thrift store or the dollar tree for a buck and I have used that set so much I keep it at the top of my tool bag.
    
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you are so right ... I was not being defensive but it sure sounded that way. I got a cool set of torx at the thrift store or the dollar tree for a buck and I have used that set so much I keep it at the top of my tool bag.
I use that set for everything! I originally bought it for fixing my kids X box 360 RROD. The rest is history.
    
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