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Poll Results: What is your Overall Opinion on this case

 
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post #5841 of 28613
Oh, for your question about the 80+ ratings.
Bronze is only guaranteed to provide 80 > 85% of power at 50% of full draw on the components 80% at 100.
Silver is 80 > 88% at 50%, 82% at 100.
Gold is 87 > 90% at 50%, 87% at 100.
Platinum is only a 230V spec and is 90 >94% at 50%.
There is white label or plain Vanilla, whatever you call it, it's the junk that they give you for free when you buy a case. It's rated at 80%, that's it, so a 700W PSU gives you 560W that's it and it probably wont last too long

What's it mean? If you have a 115V PSU rated at 700W and your components are trying to pull a full 700W it's only going to do it for the time it takes to heat the PSU's parts, after that it drops to the levels as listed above. So, you get 700W only the time it takes to start up the drives and other components, a few seconds at most, then.......
So at 350W they will provide 85%, 88% and 90% as listed, the rest comes out as heat.
So even at full power a 700W PSU is only going to give you 560W Bronze, 574W at Silver and 609W at Gold levels, the rest is wasted in converting power from A.C. to D.C. and comes out the back as heat.
They also decline with age meaning that over the years the maximum clean power you get decreases and it usually has a curve that drops at 80%. So, if somone like Corsair gives you a 7 year warranty they're warranty says you'll get the above levels for 7 years for whatever your PSU is rated at. I haven't seen that warranty on any other PSU.

Companies don't usually come up with these standards of thier own good will. Like most other things this came about as goverments mandated power efficiency models. The 80+ standard was one of these mandates.

How can you hedge your bets and preserve the quality of your power and your components? There are a couple of ways, the first is an Uninteruptible Power Supply, aka a UPS or battery backup. The second is a line conditioner, which transforms the dips and surges in the power going to your plugs into a relatively even amount of voltage. Surge supressors do neither of these jobs. If you get the right one a UPS often also has a line conditioner built in.

Oh what fun!! Want to learn more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_PLUS#What_it_means

http://80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_join.aspx On this chart, check out Chieftec and Cooler Master, they're close, with the total being only 1 different which is why I can't say Cooler Master gets thier guts from Chieftec but if you hold the specs of 2 similar watted PSU's from each company they're really close and they even look a lot alike.
So, while ultimately what you buy may be the Bronze PSU from a company, you'll pay for it in the long run as wasted heat, wear on your components and definitly in the form of your power bill.
Just be carefull that you don't buy a 500W PSU to power an actual 500W worth of equipment.
Edited by BriSleep - 2/24/10 at 9:34pm
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post #5842 of 28613
nice briSleep
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man i gotta find my adapter or buy a new one for my camera, i got pics of my new setup.
post #5844 of 28613
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man i gotta find my adapter or buy a new one for my camera, i got pics of my new setup.
Don't have a card reader?
post #5845 of 28613
Ok, I have this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341023 ; coming with my mobo & CPU. I was reading what you guys were talking about earlyer. Never owned a OCZ Fatal1ty. It only has one rail for a V-card but the damn thing is: ,+12V@56A.. << NOt bad. Now when I go to up-grade my card, I have the power. I'll never be doing SLI or crossfire so I'm not worried about a second rail. I just wanted some opinion on this unit. My best friend is already telling me I should have gone with: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139010 ; which is the unit that BriSleep mentioned earlyer..... ?????
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post #5846 of 28613
I'd say go for the corsair. I read on the reviews that the OCZ you mention is not modular. If that doesn't bother you, then either should be fine. Both are great brands though alot of people rather go for corsair.
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post #5847 of 28613
I went with the OCZ because of the Red Lighting that it puts out and then I mounted it fan side up for the lighting. The 550BE and the 3870 Toxic I got in there now run at really good temps with my Silent X 140 intake fan.
    
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post #5848 of 28613
hay all here is my baby reactor have to say i love my CM Scout. The things that i like about it is the looks and i can fit all most any thing in it for its size.

P.s sorry for the shotty picks took them with my G1 plone

Here are some picks of my baby

Befor cable management


after cable Management



A Front shot


here is my other side


and my Desktop

Edited by McWaffles - 2/26/10 at 6:52am
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I'd say go for the corsair. I read on the reviews that the OCZ you mention is not modular. If that doesn't bother you, then either should be fine. Both are great brands though alot of people rather go for corsair.
Yeah, I hear yeah. Corsair was a choise as well. But that OCZ looks so damn good. Like uncle Enigma here said:
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I went with the OCZ because of the Red Lighting that it puts out and then I mounted it fan side up for the lighting
((Sorry for the Edit))
Thats my Idea as well is to use it with the light facing upward. Yeah; Therapy, the modular thing doesn't bother me. I have a nice little idea for
that cable run. When I'm done with it I'll be posting pic. Thanks guys, I was starting to second guess my pick on my PSU when I started reading all your guys post's on the subject.
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Originally Posted by McWaffles: hay all here is my baby Diesel have to say i love my CM Scout. The things that i like about it is the looks and i can fit all most any thing in it for its size.
P.s sorry for the shotty picks took them with my G1 plone
Nice bud. lot a stuff but nice. Welcome to CM:Storm Scout....
Edited by Rogue1266 - 2/25/10 at 9:31am
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post #5850 of 28613
Much appreciation to BriSleep, rfjunkie, & Rockr69.

In conclusion, after reading and allowing the information to digest, I have purchased the Corsair CMPSU-750HX

My thanks to Rockr69 for opinions based within the lines of my listed units I had, at the time, narrowed the choices to. Considering "Budget VS Performance", the Cooler Master was a great pick. After further research and BriSleep's input, I decided to spend the additional $30 and go for the BriSleep recommended PSU.

Why? Main reasons:

The additional watts will allow for growth in components if necessary.

Not only growth now, but also the scientific understanding I have gained regarding the "80+" ratings. Seeing as for an additional $30 I am not only gaining more wattage, but also a "Silver" rather then "Bronze", and in turn a higher % at half to full loads. Much thanks to BriSleep for the detailed explanation!

Thanks to Rockr69 for explanation of possible troubles with more then one rails. I checked to be sure the Corsair 750HX was a Single rail.

So thanks to everyone for the input! I feel very confident I made the best possible choice in my purchase & who doesn't love that feeling? Now just need to wait on shipping then install the part. Can't wait!

***EDIT*** I almost forgot to mention... This is my FIRST MODULAR PSU! lol so, you can imagine the anticipation.
Edited by clee413 - 2/25/10 at 10:08am
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