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Okay, I'll do that after the Windows 7 RTM finishes installing. But, do you think that could be what was causing my system instability? And when I set it manually in the BIOS, should I do it at 1.8v?

As far as the timings are considered, it seemed pretty average for 1600mhz DDR3. Plus, I got the 2x 2GB kit for $65, so it was a decent deal. I dunno, after I get the CPU overclocked I was planning on OC'ing the memory and video card.
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Do the ram timings really matter that much ?
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Do the ram timings really matter that much ?
Nah, they're pretty much just a marketing gimmick anyway...
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Do the ram timings really matter that much ?
Timings are much more important than speed. There are lots of benchmarks proving this that i have seen (don't ask me where they are...sorry). People have been posting about this for a while at least for ddr2.... the pc2 6400 (800) at cas 4 blew away the pc2 8500 (1066) at cas 5... that is what i got from the posts i saw... and like i said earlier in this thread.... with the AMD motherboards, if you set everything to auto, ddr2 memory (can't speak for ddr3), will default to pc 6400 1.8v or less..... the memory i have in my sig rig, i tried it with 3 different motherboards, and it always defaulted to 1.8v and pc6400.... even tho' it was pc8500 2.1v....
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Timings are much more important than speed. There are lots of benchmarks proving this that i have seen (don't ask me where they are...sorry). People have been posting about this for a while at least for ddr2.... the pc2 6400 (800) at cas 4 blew away the pc2 8500 (1066) at cas 5... that is what i got from the posts i saw... and like i said earlier in this thread.... with the AMD motherboards, if you set everything to auto, ddr2 memory (can't speak for ddr3), will default to pc 6400 1.8v or less..... the memory i have in my sig rig, i tried it with 3 different motherboards, and it always defaulted to 1.8v and pc6400.... even tho' it was pc8500 2.1v....
:O

Is there away to overclock them or is that underclocking you have to do ?
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I'm just stating that if u take the defaults the memory will not run at it's advertised speed (if it is over pc6400). You have to manually set the settings higher...and i guess if the memory is rated higher than it is showing up as... that is not really overclocking when you turn it up. I wouldn't consider it underclocking unless you manually set it lower than what it shows up as defaults.....

And i guess the other point i was making was clocking the memory higher doesn't necessarily give you better performance. You can overclock the memory if you want.....
Edited by MrAMD_Fan - 8/21/09 at 8:26pm
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Well, the BIOS doesn't seem to give me much control over the RAM. It lets me change memory clock (I think), but the options are like 400, 667, and 800. Then it lets me change over voltage. So how would I set the RAM to what it's supposed to be at? Or even set it to 1333mhz if I can get the timings tighter?
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I also have just upgraded my build. My mobo M4A785TD-V by asus is setting my ram to ddr3 1333 and it should be ddr3 1600. The bios is a bit confusing considering I havn't oc'd a computer since around 2002 (DFI Lanparty) and the terminology is completely different in the bios menu. I am afraid to start jumping into changing everything (I have been able to run stable on stock cooling at 3.6) however I can't seem to find the section in the bios that lets me change the ram speed. I will try to get more information in around 30 minutes however I am at work right now so I can't work on the rig.

I am having trouble finding a guide to help me understand the bios for this motherboard, however so far the 550 seems to be preforming nicely!



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I also have just upgraded my build. My mobo M4A785TD-V by asus is setting my ram to ddr3 1333 and it should be ddr3 1600. The bios is a bit confusing considering I havn't oc'd a computer since around 2002 (DFI Lanparty) and the terminology is completely different in the bios menu. I am afraid to start jumping into changing everything (I have been able to run stable on stock cooling at 3.6) however I can't seem to find the section in the bios that lets me change the ram speed. I will try to get more information in around 30 minutes however I am at work right now so I can't work on the rig.

I am having trouble finding a guide to help me understand the bios for this motherboard, however so far the 550 seems to be preforming nicely!



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AMD Phenom II 550BE (3.6ghz on stock cooling, max temp 45c.)
M4A785TD-V asus mobo
2x2gb ddr3 1600 gskill ram
nvidia 7800GT vid. card (Soon to be upgraded.. next paycheck)
So your setup is very similar to mine then.

Did you test that setup with 3.6ghz? What did you use to test? I had mine at 3.6ghz with stock voltage, and it crashed during the OverDrive stability test. I'm not sure what caused it though.
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That bios has lots of control over the ram.... it should be like mine... you have to change the memory settings to manual and btw: actually 400 = 800, 667 = 1333, 800 = 1600.. i'm not an expert at ddr3 but try setting the setting to 800 and save and reboot and see what the first screen shows...

EDIT: I looked at the specs of that mobo and it looks sweet!
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