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This past week, I've seen many, many ways to put the thermal compound on the cpu/heatsink.

Some like to put in a small amount on the CPU and not spread the thermal paste but squish the heatsink to let it spread (Arctic cooling website recommend this). Others like to spread the thermal paste with gloved finger/credit card until it covers the cpu. What methods do you all use to place thermal paste (especially with the arctic 5 silver) that you think is the most effective?
Sandman64, spreading the TIM (thermal interface material) across the IHS is fine but you're basically wasting some of it. The primary part of the IHS that needs to be covered is the mid section. That's where the die is at on the wafer. I usually place a small bead (the size of a uncooked rice grain) at the middle of the IHS. The mounting pressure of the cooler will evenly spread the TIM. Here are the application instructions straight from Arctic Silver: http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2amdas5.html.

Hope that helps
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@strat79 and @ thlnk3r:

Thank you both of you for the thermal paste method and everything else. You've helped me overcome my fear of building this thing!
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Sandman64, spreading the TIM (thermal interface material) across the IHS is fine but you're basically wasting some of it. The primary part of the IHS that needs to be covered is the mid section. That's where the die is at on the wafer. I usually place a small bead (the size of a uncooked rice grain) at the middle of the IHS. The mounting pressure of the cooler will evenly spread the TIM. Here are the application instructions straight from Arctic Silver: http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2amdas5.html.

Hope that helps
This.
It's not really important anyway, since air bubbles don't make that much of a difference. If you twisted it, don't worry, except if you have some more TIM, you could try again.
But for my 9700, I twisted my heatsink around, since I didn't really knew what side I was supposed to make it face to.
It didn't really change anything, and my MX-2 still does the job pretty well !
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Well, we got our first snow last night. It got my gears turning and my obsession for tinkering kicked in. I think it's time to turn my dryer hose intake into a more serious cooling solution:

Recipe: Cold Kentucky Mountain Air


+ this going to underneath my house


+to side of computer case with fan pulling air in(Feline Optional)


=Win hopefully.

The first picture is the only one that is mine. The others are what I plan on doing soon. My dad had his setup like this for a long time and it worked great. Just cut a whole in his floor near the case and put a dryer hose from the floor to the side of the case. I already have a 120CFM fan mounted into the side blowing in air directly on the CPU with a dryer hose. The only thing I will be changing is adding an extra hose from the floor to the fan.

Condensation is my only worry, but he never had a problem out of his, so not too worried. It's not as cold under the house as it is outside, I'd say ~50+F when it's snowing outside. Plus I will be adding filters to the under house fan. More to come....
Edited by Strat79 - 12/5/09 at 10:46am
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This.
It's not really important anyway, since air bubbles don't make that much of a difference. If you twisted it, don't worry, except if you have some more TIM, you could try again.
But for my 9700, I twisted my heatsink around, since I didn't really knew what side I was supposed to make it face to.
It didn't really change anything, and my MX-2 still does the job pretty well !
Thank you for your input! I have followed the directions you, strat79, and th1nker have told me regarding the thermal paste. I did do a little twisting with the heatsink, but I bought the big amount of arctic silver 5, so no worries!

I've just spent from 1 AM until 10AM today building my first computer from scratch (quintuple checking everything you do does that to you).

Some of the directions on the CM690 manual was not very clear (like which of the 2 pins are positive or negative...there's a freakin arrow and it doesn't tell you in the manual if the arrow represnts positive or negative, but I found a video of someone with the same chasis and similar Gigabyte board. I also spent waay too much time finding out the difference between a PWR FAN and a SYS FAN. I also forgot to place the I/O panel after I set everything up! Some of the placements for the board are just plain weird and annoying. The 6-pin for the board and the HD audio had the wires almost blocking the heatsink fan. And that IDE placement irks me to no end. I'm exhausted, but I finally got it together!

Weighing in at nearly 20 lbs the CM690 is stocked with:

MA770t-ud3p
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Last but not least: 550BE

Some pics! Pic1 Pic2

(I wanted to take more but the camera started acting up *shrugs*)

You'll notice what's annoying me about the 6pin and the HDaudio. I also wish that IDE for my DVD burner was in a better spot on the board. I'm just glad it's all together honestly.


Now let's hope nothing was short circuited or ends up DOA when I power it up! :swearing:

Next up on the check list:
  • Check to see if it turns on
  • Heat/cool cycling for arctic cooling 5
  • Running Prime95 on the 550BE as a dual core to check it's temps (and to see if the thermal paste was placed effectively)
  • Unlocking the 550BE as a quadcore (crosses fingers)...and then overclocking it!


Edited by sandman64 - 12/5/09 at 10:32am
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Looks good Sandman. You can never overcheck your work enough, especially on your first build. Looks like you have done your homework and it should be fine. Fire that baby up and post back using it! You can run prime95 and still do things like browse internet if you want to post if you have questions.

I'd go directly into your BIOS when you power up the computer the first time to check temps before going into windows btw. Just to make sure it's not extremely hot for some reason and the HSF is seated correctly. Once temps are confirmed in bios, jump on into windows and run core temp or HwMonitor or whatever temp software you will be using. Run Prime95 and watch closely and be ready to stop Prime if it gets too hot too quick.

Good Luck man!
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Be careful of the condensation risk like you stated earlier.If everything goes well you HAVE to post your temps as soon as you get some readings!
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That's the method I use when applying the Artic Silver on my cpu.

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Originally Posted by thlnk3r View Post
Sandman64, spreading the TIM (thermal interface material) across the IHS is fine but you're basically wasting some of it. The primary part of the IHS that needs to be covered is the mid section. That's where the die is at on the wafer. I usually place a small bead (the size of a uncooked rice grain) at the middle of the IHS. The mounting pressure of the cooler will evenly spread the TIM. Here are the application instructions straight from Arctic Silver: http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2amdas5.html.

Hope that helps
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Lapped the stock HSF, which while doing it, it hit me that it doesn't have much to smooth out. It's just a little circle in the middle that makes contact. So far I have noticed it dropped maybe 2-3c, hitting about 60 tops instead of 63-64. Avg. around 58 in Prime run. Thermostat hasn't been touched, so ambient should be about the same.

I was about to lap the heatspreader on CPU but I really don't want to void the warranty just yet. I'll be getting a new HS/F soon plus working on my dryer hose project as I can. At 3.5Ghz now, bumped it up 100 more this morning. Still on stock voltages. I'll probably drop it back down to 3.3 for heat issues until I get the HS though. Think it's going to be a good OC chip.
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Here is where I am at it's stable has passed 3hrs OCCT but i'm waiting for a cooler day to push more. It's a fast chip!
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