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Hey guys, loving this forum.

Would like to join this group.
here be my CPU Z result
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2152259

Any extra advice would be great, mines a x2 565 BE all core unlocked
post #4272 of 4289
Been playing with a 550BE for the most part of two years.

1. I cannot unlock the extra cores.

2. I cannot OC more than 3.6Ghz and remain stable. Doesn't matter what I do. 3.7Ghz is pretty stable, but will eventually crash. 3.8Ghz appears stable, but intense gaming will kill it.

Maybe my Gibabyte 790xt MoBo just isn't the best for unlocking or OCing. I tried several BIOS versions as well.

My best stable and efficent OC is:
3.6Ghz
200 x 18
Vcore 1.4v
(actually pretty stable at stock volts running 3.6 Ghz, but bump it up anyway)
RAM OCZ Gold 1600 (8.8.8.24)
HT at 2000
SilenX Cpu Cooler - 120mm Fan.

I figure a stable HT and RAM speeds at relative design maximums is just as important in the equation as raw CPU speed. I could speed up the CPU a bit by dropping HT link and RAM speed, so as to increas FSB speed. But why throttle HT and RAM for an extray 200 Ghz in CPU? (The OCZ ram is factory OC'd to 1600 so going faster with that ram isn't very successful.) I could speed with significante Voltage boosts, but quickly lose processor/energy efficency.

Lesson Learned:

1. Don't assume every AMD BE chip will OC to the max specs. noted in web forums.

2. Don't assume every AMD chip has a good chance of Unlocking to more cores.

3. If you want a 4 core chip, buy a 4 core chip. Don't buy a 2 core with hope it will become a stable 4 core chip.

So, why did I buy the 550BE instead of the 9555BE, back in the day? Pure price. 955s where running about $250, 940s about $190, and the 550 about $100.

Got mine on a huge return special for $75.

2xCore CPU that is stable at 3.6Ghz for $75 in 2009 was a really good deal, and is still a fair deal in 2011.

I'd like to upgrade to a 4 core chip, but cost-benefit just isn't there yet.
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And, yes, I did try the alternative of boosting FSB while reducing Multiplier. Had little to no luck with that.

My CPU likes the stock settings and tollerates an 18 multiplier. So I've stuck with 200x18 at 3.6Ghz and having solid stable performance with no hiccups for over a year now. Nothing I've tried, no new ideas, have made any difference.
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Ive got phenom Ii x2 555 and my mobo is asus m4a78lt-m le.Unlocked the extra cores easily but didnt see any increase in performance.is something wrong here?please reply
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Ive got phenom Ii x2 555 and my mobo is asus m4a78lt-m le.Unlocked the extra cores easily but didnt see any increase in performance.Is something wrong here?o and ive got a 250W psu lol:D.please reply guys need help badly
post #4276 of 4289
I picked up a Phenom II X2 550BE from a closeout at CompUSA in Raleigh a couple of days after Christmas.

After a few days of playing around with it, I've been able to unlock it to an X4 B50 at 3.5 GHz (17.5*200) at 1.46v. Temps are about 38C at idle and 52C under Prime95 with a Hyper 212 Plus. Here's a screenshot of the validation:

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jsc1973,

Other than increasing the Vcore to 1.46v, what else did you have to play around with?

I'm looking for clues to what I might be missing in getting mine to unlock.

M.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithral View Post

jsc1973,

Other than increasing the Vcore to 1.46v, what else did you have to play around with?

I'm looking for clues to what I might be missing in getting mine to unlock.

M.
The chip booted right up as an X4. At first, all I did was turn on Advanced Clock Calibration and the ASUS Core Unlocker in the BIOS.

It will actually boot into Windows with all four cores enabled at the stock voltage. However, I soon discovered that it would BSOD if the processor was put under any kind of heavy load. I had to go all the way to 1.46 in order to get it to run stable as an X4 under Prime95.

It will boot at 3.7 GHz at as little as 1.40, but it won't stay stable. If I were willing to go over 1.5v, I could probably get 3.7 stable, but I'm not willing to do that. It does more than everything I need it to at 3.5.

I should add that this 550BE is a fairly late production chip (2011 week 21), and AMD by that time were probably just down-binning perfectly functional X4s as a matter of course. You said yours is more than two years old, and it's probable that yours just has two cores with defects that make them unusable.
Edited by jsc1973 - 1/2/12 at 11:15am
     
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Clock speed- 3762MHzz
FSB x Multi- 250x15
Vcore- 1.45v
RAM speed-836MHz
NB speed- 2508MHz
HT Link- 2000MHz
Motherboard- ASUS M5A97
Cooling method- Cooler Master Hyper 101A

I have a AMD Phenom x2 565 3.4GHz Stock. I am now running it at a AMD Phenom II x4 B65 3.76GHz. Here are some pics... This thing runs hot with Prime95 just after a few minutes. 100% stable. I have ran Prime95 for more than 24 hours to ensure this. I can not go higher as my temps will not allow me. I currently have a hew Cooler Haster heatsink in the mail ordered from Newegg. Here are some pics.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2302175

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I have a 565 Black Edition at 4.0GHz stable biggrin.gif
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