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post #1 of 13
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Hi and since this is my first post here I would also like to thank you for this great community (indeed).

I want to buy a new system and despite a low budget I would also like to buy components that let me begin to experiment with overclocking.

After reading one threads after another I am even more confused so I really ask for help

Right now I am limited to use dealers in Switzerland that have retail outlets and that can be a problem too...

I started by choosing the cpu: a Q6600. It overclocks well in a good system and my target frequency is 3.2 or 3.4Ghz. I saw that in the Q6600 club there are overclockers with higher frequencies but my target seems already a tad higher for a beginner.

After choosing the cpu I should pick a mb but that's the main doubt I have so I'll talk later about it. Another important piece is memory and here I have the dilemma 800Mhz or 1066Mhz.

People on the forum seem just fine with the first one so I'd like to pick two Patriots sticks for a total of 4GB. The modules are two Viper-Low-Latency (4-4-4-12) PVS24G6400LLK. I could also pick with no problem the 1066Mhz version if that's the case. I can have two Viper-Low-Latency (5-5-5-12) PVS24G8500ELKR2 modules. Is 800Mhz ok?

I would also like to have a *relatively* quiet system so I picked up a cpu cooler (Scythe SCZP-1000 Zipang) and the Antec Sonata III 500 case+PSU. Any advice to get another cpu cooler in that price range that is more quiet is welcome obviously.

Now I just have to pick a mainboard and here, despite the limited number of options, lies the rub.

I have a old PCI-E card (Radeon HD 3450 - 256 MB) but I could also but a mb with an integrated video chip becaue I am not into gaming. I use my machine to develop desktop applications and web sites.

I have these options:

Asus P5QL-PRO
Asus P5QL-E
Gigabyte EG43M-S2H
Gigabyte EP43C-DS3
Gigabyte EP43-DS3
Gigabyte EP45C-DS3R
Gigabyte EG45M-DS2H
Gigabyte EP43-DS3L
Intel BLKDP35DPM
Intel DP35DPM

I can afford any of these. What would you suggest me to stay in the budget and reach my oc goal? Could you give me a couple names so I have an alternative mb if the dealer does not have the first one in stock?

Any help is really appreciated. Thanks!
post #2 of 13
To get your cpu up to 3.4 you need a FSB of around 356. Every motherboard there should support a FSB of 400 AKA (1600). I would go with any of the Gigabyte boards because I've had good experiences with Gigabyte.
post #3 of 13
If you're on a budget, I would suggest an AM3 system not an LGA775 system... LGA775 isn't that great to get into now anyways, if you ever decided to upgrade the processor later on, you won't have many choices since nothing good is going to come out for LGA775... Not to mention the new phenom IIs overclock pretty well... If you have the money to spare though, core i7 systems are really where its at
post #4 of 13
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Thanks for the replies and the advices.

Vdek I looked into the phenom II option and browsed a bit the forums to compare the AMD X4 940 and the q6600. Since pretty everyone is suggesting to take the 940 and there is a great offer where I buy my components I decided to switch

On a thread here I found also a review of the X4 940 and the mb used there is available also at the shop I used. So now my final system will be:

AMD Phenom II X4 940
Gigabyte MA790GX-DS4H
Patriot Viper-Low-Latency DDR2 1066MHz 4GB
Antec Sonata III 500
Scythe SCZP-1000 Zipang (or Scythe Orochi)

I'll just have to make sure that the PSU can support this overclocked cpu and I'm ready to go.

Thanks again for your help.
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by gelo View Post
Thanks for the replies and the advices.

Vdek I looked into the phenom II option and browsed a bit the forums to compare the AMD X4 940 and the q6600. Since pretty everyone is suggesting to take the 940 and there is a great offer where I buy my components I decided to switch

On a thread here I found also a review of the X4 940 and the mb used there is available also at the shop I used. So now my final system will be:

AMD Phenom II X4 940
Gigabyte MA790GX-DS4H
Patriot Viper-Low-Latency DDR2 1066MHz 4GB
Antec Sonata III 500
Scythe SCZP-1000 Zipang (or Scythe Orochi)

I'll just have to make sure that the PSU can support this overclocked cpu and I'm ready to go.

Thanks again for your help.
Onboard graphics right? The Antec Sonata III 500 has an Antec Earthwatts 500w power supply so that's way more then you will ever need if you stick to onboard graphics. You could even pop in a GTX260 and it would still be fine.
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post #6 of 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by gelo View Post
Thanks for the replies and the advices.

Vdek I looked into the phenom II option and browsed a bit the forums to compare the AMD X4 940 and the q6600. Since pretty everyone is suggesting to take the 940 and there is a great offer where I buy my components I decided to switch

On a thread here I found also a review of the X4 940 and the mb used there is available also at the shop I used. So now my final system will be:

AMD Phenom II X4 940
Gigabyte MA790GX-DS4H
Patriot Viper-Low-Latency DDR2 1066MHz 4GB
Antec Sonata III 500
Scythe SCZP-1000 Zipang (or Scythe Orochi)

I'll just have to make sure that the PSU can support this overclocked cpu and I'm ready to go.

Thanks again for your help.
If you're going for overclocking, make sure to get the Black Edition processor
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Acoma_Andy View Post
Onboard graphics right?
Yes and that's enough for what I plan to do with this system.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acoma_Andy View Post
The Antec Sonata III 500 has an Antec Earthwatts 500w power supply so that's way more then you will ever need if you stick to onboard graphics.
That's what I hoped to read

Thanks
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vdek View Post
If you're going for overclocking, make sure to get the Black Edition processor
Yes I'll do it. I read that they are easier to OC and being a beginner that's what I need .

Thanks
post #9 of 13
I've heard good things about this Noctua cooler too btw, supposed to be very quiet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608007
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by vdek View Post
I've heard good things about this Noctua cooler too btw, supposed to be very quiet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608007
Thanks for the tip. To be honest I am still undecided between the Zipang and the Scythe Orochi. Now I also have to add the Noctua cooler to the mix (assuming they all fit in the case since I have yet to check that ).

Things are starting to get interesting

vdek thanks again for helping
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