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I think it has something to do with the PCI-E speed.

Two cards in 16x16 is the same speed as 3 cards in 16x8x8 or 4 cards in 8x8x8x8
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I think it has something to do with the PCI-E speed.

Two cards in 16x16 is the same speed as 3 cards in 16x8x8 or 4 cards in 8x8x8x8
There was an article that showed the difference between 16x and 8x and there really was very little, even between 1x and 16x, obviously it was more but it wasn't that drastic. I forget where it was, but the 4000 series to my knowledge didn't scale very well. The 5000series on the other hand have a massive difference. Infact, the 5770 scales better than the 5850 and 5870.

In the article they showed that most graphics cards these days dont use the full 16x bandwidth, and going from 8x to 16x wasn't much of a performance increase. Although with the 58## its not quite the same, they use more of the 16x than others.

I've never had Crossfire/SLI so i figured i'd go all out with these bad boys and eventually get Tri-fire (or maybe even quad if i feel really hardcore). I do alot of folding so its mainly for that. Also my E-peen/ego.

How many people have 3/4 5000 series ATI cards?

I wish i had the thread/article to show you about the bandwidths on the PCI-e lanes but i can't remember where it is, so it probably seems like im talking out my a$$. If someone knows the thread im talking about i'd really appreciate it!
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I wish i had the thread/article to show you about the bandwidths on the PCI-e lanes but i can't remember where it is, so it probably seems like im talking out my a$$. If someone knows the thread im talking about i'd really appreciate it!
Not sure about the article but I will support you in the fact that I know that It is true!
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I've been seriously looking at buying this board, and I've got zero doubts about it's abilities. I'm looking at picking it up with a 955 or 965 BE within a few days.

However, regarding USB 3.0, PCI 3.0, and other technologies that are coming out in 2010:

Will this board be able to support them?
-Backwards compatabilty with PCI 3.0-->>>2.0?
-PCI expansion cards for USB 3.0?

What other technology is just on the horizon that I'd have to try to future-proof against?
Dude are you serious? This is probably one of the best, I repeat best - clubs and online resources you could ever ask for, for a motherboard.

The backwards compatibility questions...no on both, as they're hard-wired hardware........

Count me in guys, I'm looking forward to x16 x16 with 5800 series. I'm 4870 for now though....(single).

550 BE - so I want to unlock - looks like 1.6 official will be ok??? Gonna USB flash first thing (now you see a good reason to keep that 256 SD still around).

Got ripjaw 2000, and I'll try my butt off to get there on 2 DIMMS...look out suckas...if not, I'll be really tight at 1800 or 1600 if I can....

Wish me luck, preparing the USB stick tonight (it's all preparation my friends)...gonna be under water (hoping my AM2+ block will fit (should right??)...240 Rad....you guys are done!!!

This guy worries about what he's missing out on...I'm looking forward to DDR3 and AM3....all perspective I guess.

Ps... future-proofing yourself is buying a motherboard that goes x16x16, x8x8x8x8 on AM3....do your research, this board is the nuts...oh yeah, it unlocks chips too - so you might want to go 550 instead of 955 like me and wait until x6's that come out) 2133 DDR rating on the board??? nuts...that's future IMC's will facilitate - but it's already here in board...hence dude saying he runs HTT super high (point being this is so much nicer than my AM2+ from last year)...I had only one lane PCIE
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^^^ agree with you completely there. Its one of the best boards of PII's as of now, and I dont see any of the others have a full feature list like this one. And at this price it definitely rocks.
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BIOS question:

Should I disable spread spectrum? I don't even know what it does really, but I've been doing some searches on it and most people disable it. Keep in mind nothing is OCed yet, but I plan to very soon.
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BIOS question:

Should I disable spread spectrum? I don't even know what it does really, but I've been doing some searches on it and most people disable it. Keep in mind nothing is OCed yet, but I plan to very soon.
Yes disable spread spectrum. It adjusts the clock generator on the motherboard so your clock speed changes slightly. Enabling spread spectrum helps people that have a lot of EMI in their surroundings, so they do not have problems with other devices. If you OC, you do not want spread spectrum on.
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Yes disable spread spectrum. It adjusts the clock generator on the motherboard so your clock speed changes slightly. Enabling spread spectrum helps people that have a lot of EMI in their surroundings, so they do not have problems with other devices. If you OC, you do not want spread spectrum on.
Thanks! That should also explain why CPU-Z was showing slight fluctuations in the CPU GHz, but we'll see in a moment... turning off now.

Edit: Disabled but I was wrong about those fluctuations going away in CPU-Z. I guess that's normal.
Edited by phurtive - 10/20/09 at 12:14am
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Nope those fluctuations are normal, slight movements in the clockspeed of between 199-200 mhz.

On a different note: Would including good looking and well performing monitoring software out of the box hurt MSI. The software that comes with this board just sucks...the green power thingi and the oc center are both so outdated in looks and functionality its not even funny.

Now if MSI can make afterburner, with a little help from others, I am sure they can make better monitoring software for this board. I like what Evga does and even the Asus software is better, though it looks like crap. The OC center does not even report the right OC's.

It took me a few days to kind of figure out which sensor was where on the board and was really worried about one, before I realised that the thing was showing hot due to it taking temps from the area around the second 16x slot which i use for my video card. Please MSI realise some good software for this board.
Edited by mav2000 - 10/20/09 at 5:19am
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Just wanted to say hi and i found this thread after searching google about this board. I have a 965 and ive had a bunch of problems. I have it stable now at 3.7ghz but i wanna push my cpu further. Ive been reading this thread and there is alot of good info. Ive been trying a different combo of everything ive read but i just cant get my computer stable at 3.8Ghz. Now i decided to post to see if anyone has issues like mine.

Right now my computer is stable at 3.7Ghz with 1.392v, NB at 2600@1.25v. Ive tried to raise my multiplier to 19 and up the volts but it just wont work. I upped the volts to 1.49 and i run prime95 it stays stable for about 3minutes then the monitor just goes blank. Ive also tried lowering the multi to 16 and upping the FSB to hit 3.8 but same thing. Is this blank screen the MB like a vdroop or is it my OS?

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