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fsb/dram ratio will do it
Only problem with that is you will most likely end up underclocking your mem..youll be limited by your cpu/mobo..but I guess if you have tight timings it may actually improve performance..all depends on if your using a mem intensive app or cpu intensive app..
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Only problem with that is you will most likely end up underclocking your mem..youll be limited by your cpu/mobo..but I guess if you have tight timings it may actually improve performance..all depends on if your using a mem intensive app or cpu intensive app..
what he said (i kind of forgot to mention that)
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Two problems im running into with this board:

First and biggest issue is that whenever I try to OC the FSB, my computer will not boot to windows. Anything over 201 results in a failed OC. I'm not sure if I should clear the CMOS and start from scratch again or if it would even make a difference. Anyone else experience this issue?

Another problem is that my CPU will idle kinda high (in the low 40's) even at stock volts. I have a pretty high end air cooling system (check the sig) and my ambient temps are probably in the high 70's low 80's (Fahrenheit). On my M3A79-T deluxe my 955 would idle around 34 - 35C and that was with only one Kaze. I got the second one to see if it would help but it doesn't. I've also reseated and reapplied thermal past about three times and no help. The way I applied it was just a little drop in the center of the heat spreader and a drop in the center of the heat sink then seat it but still getting the same temps. I use OCZ freeze thermal paste.

Any advice any of these two problems would be greatly appreciated
post #114 of 9641
Update the bios, i can hit 348 fsb on this board. So its probably a bios problem. Also chips run hotter on this board than other ones...probably because everything is soo close to each other on this board.
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Update the bios, i can hit 348 fsb on this board. So its probably a bios problem. Also chips run hotter on this board than other ones...probably because everything is soo close to each other on this board.
The BIOS I'm running is 1.3 which is the latest one I could get off of the MSI website.

Yea, I thought about that soon after I posted. I checked pictures of both boards and i can see that my X2 is a whole lot closer to my CPU and since my TRUE is mounted north/south, I'm thinking that its pulling hot air off the back of my X2. I'm gunna try mounting my GPU one PCIe lane down and also re-flash my BIOS and see if this solves both of my problems.
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The BIOS I'm running is 1.3 which is the latest one I could get off of the MSI website.

Yea, I thought about that soon after I posted. I checked pictures of both boards and i can see that my X2 is a whole lot closer to my CPU and since my TRUE is mounted north/south, I'm thinking that its pulling hot air off the back of my X2. I'm gunna try mounting my GPU one PCIe lane down and also re-flash my BIOS and see if this solves both of my problems.
Running 1.3 msi bios i get to 261 before my cpu stops working (810) what is your memory set / rated at? If your running at 1600 and trying to oc it further that may be your problem...
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Another problem is that my CPU will idle kinda high (in the low 40's) even at stock volts. I have a pretty high end air cooling system (check the sig) and my ambient temps are probably in the high 70's low 80's (Fahrenheit). On my M3A79-T deluxe my 955 would idle around 34 - 35C and that was with only one Kaze. I got the second one to see if it would help but it doesn't. I've also reseated and reapplied thermal past about three times and no help. The way I applied it was just a little drop in the center of the heat spreader and a drop in the center of the heat sink then seat it but still getting the same temps. I use OCZ freeze thermal paste.

Any advice any of these two problems would be greatly appreciated
on stock cooler im idleing around 33c, load oced 48-50c ambient 70-75f (open case) if you have not already you may want to consider lapping heatsink see what happens. Thermal paste helps but true contact is the best.(lapping after market heatsink wont void cpu warranty.)
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Try upping the cpu pll voltage to alittle under 2.6 like 2.592. That should help with fsb overclocking.
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Running 1.3 msi bios i get to 261 before my cpu stops working (810) what is your memory set / rated at? If your running at 1600 and trying to oc it further that may be your problem...
The memory I have is rated for 1600@9-9-9-24 at 1.8v which is what i have them set to. Here. Wow...they were not that expensive when I bought em...
I'm gunna try reflashing my BIOS and clearing the CMOS to be double sure tonight and see what happens.


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on stock cooler im idleing around 33c, load oced 48-50c ambient 70-75f (open case) if you have not already you may want to consider lapping heatsink see what happens. Thermal paste helps but true contact is the best.(lapping after market heatsink wont void cpu warranty.)
Haven't tried lapping as of yet. Usually what I do is apply a thin layer of paste and rub it in with a flat surface until it gets shiny and then apply a drop on the CPU and another drop on the heat sink. Haven't gotten into lapping because I usually don't have a lot of time to do all the modding I'd like. I'm starting to believe its just pulling hot air off the back of my X2 since they're so close. I wish Thermalright would release a east/west bracket for the AM3 socket.
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^^ Little update on this situation.....

1.Moved my computer to a cooler room
2.Reseated the HSF and applied a little more OCZ Freeze
3.Moved my GPU down to the third PCIe lane (the other x16 one)

That solved my temperature problems. My CPU was idling in the 28 - 32C range so thats good. As far as not being able to increase my FSB....

1.Cleared the CMOS twice
2.Re-flashed the BIOS....

Computer won't POST

3.Turned off machine, pressed the clr CMOS button, still no POST
4.Turned off machine, took out the CMOS battery for 15 seconds still no POST
5.Reset the CMOS jumpers, still no POST
6.Tried moving the GPU around to all the different PCIe lanes and still dead
7.Debug LED displays a code of E0 which of course is not listed in the manual or on the MSI website so as of right now, my system is bricked!
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