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yeah I saw it back there somewhere. Cant tell what you are running you NB @ but I noticed a major improvement between 2000 and 2800!
Sorry my NB is running at 2600.
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2800 NB was causing slight graphics anomalies in my games. I could like see lines where polygons met polygons here and there... One precise example would be WoW, and the ground had it bad. IT had to be NB @ 2800 because I changed it back to 2600 like now, and it's peachy keen. I've been looking into the sli hack for non ali boards, and if I can get my buddy to let me borrow his gtx 260, I can try it too. You might need to start from scratch for best results.
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Can someone tell me how accurate Everest is in reporting voltages? It seems accurate in most respects, but I am getting some noticeable NB voltage increases over what I am setting in the bios.

It actually seems to over-volt by about .05 volts, and also varies/fluctuates quite a bit with load. Here's an example:
Bios settings,
CPU -- 236 x 17 = 4012Mhz
NB -- 236 x 11 = 2596Mhz
RAM -- 236 x 3.33 x 2 = 1571Mhz
HT Link -- 236 x 8 = 1888Mhz

CPU-NB VDD -- 1.3125v
CPU-NB Voltage -- 1.362v
DRAM voltage -- 1.75v

... boot into Windows

Everest, idling, shows NB voltage @ 1.384v. Set Prime95 to run a custom test of 512k - 1024k, starts at 1024 and a few seconds in the NB voltage reads 1.416v and within a minute or two all cores have failed with rounding errors, which means it wants more volts, right? Lower NB volts cause it to reboot with this test. But isn't that already a lot of volts for 2600Mhz NB? Temps for the NB are about 47-49c under load right now.

What does everyone think about this? Is this indicative of a bad IMC? Or do I just need to crank up the volts?

Marc

EDIT: As to the Prime95 being unstable, I think I was incorrectly setting the amount of memory to be used in the custom test. I'll post what it was in the test when I get it stable.
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Can someone tell me how accurate Everest is in reporting voltages? It seems accurate in most respects, but I am getting some noticeable NB voltage increases over what I am setting in the bios.

It actually seems to over-volt by about .05 volts, and also varies/fluctuates quite a bit with load. Here's an example:
Bios settings,
CPU -- 236 x 17 = 4012Mhz
NB -- 236 x 11 = 2596Mhz
RAM -- 236 x 3.33 x 2 = 1571Mhz
HT Link -- 236 x 8 = 1888Mhz

CPU-NB VDD -- 1.3125v
CPU-NB Voltage -- 1.362v
DRAM voltage -- 1.75v

... boot into Windows

Everest, idling, shows NB voltage @ 1.384v. Set Prime95 to run a custom test of 512k - 1024k, starts at 1024 and a few seconds in the NB voltage reads 1.416v and within a minute or two all cores have failed with rounding errors, which means it wants more volts, right? Lower NB volts cause it to reboot with this test. But isn't that already a lot of volts for 2600Mhz NB? Temps for the NB are about 47-49c under load right now.

What does everyone think about this? Is this indicative of a bad IMC? Or do I just need to crank up the volts?

Marc
Marc,
First, regarding Everest. Depending on where you're reading your temps/voltages, whether it be on the on screen display (OSD) or the "Sensors" page, you have to adjust in the properties how often it refreshes. I noticed in my OSD that the temps didn't match up with Coretemp. I checked the refresh rate, it would only refresh every 5 seconds. Coretemp I have set to refresh every 0.5 second.

As for voltage fluctuation, that is perferctly normal. The voltage regulators (VR's) usually handle this task. Unless the fluctuation is a huge amount like lets say 0.10v on the cpu, then I'd get worried.

As for your NB, use a memory tester first like memtest (Memtest 4.00 you can run fromyour desktop) or you can use S&M v1.9.1 (scroll down until you find it) which has a built in memory tester (use the wizard to set tests up). If you memory is deemed stable then run prime.

And as you've noticed, prime doesn't tell you where you failed. Run S&M 's CPU test @ 100% load and if it fails it'll tell you where it failed. If you get an L1 cache failure, you need more volts. If you get an L2 or FPU failure your temps are too high. Be forewarned that S&M does get your CPU hotter than prime so make sure you have adequate cooling.

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I think its CPU volts, im running 1.4v for 3.7 it just seems alil low for 140w chip. NB is fine mine is at 1.3v. From what i understand 2600NB can take 1.3 to 1.4v and maybe alil more depending on the chip.
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Do you have a direct link to the S&M i couldnt find one. There was an SIV but thats as close as it got
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Here's the .zip file.
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Marc,
As for your NB, use a memory tester first like memtest (Memtest 4.00 you can run fromyour desktop) or you can use S&M v1.9.1 (scroll down until you find it) which has a built in memory tester (use the wizard to set tests up). If you memory is deemed stable then run prime.
I've run the memory through a lot of cycles through MemTest86+, I'm well under it's max stability numbers, so it shouldn't be the RAM. I was testing the 512k - 1024k in Prime because I thought that was testing the IMC. Testing the IMC should let me know if I have the NB (mostly) stable, so if I've lowered other speeds, like the memory and cpu, then I should have pretty much determined a failure on 1024k size test should be the IMC (NB), right?

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Run S&M 's CPU test @ 100% load and if it fails it'll tell you where it failed. If you get an L1 cache failure, you need more volts. If you get an L2 or FPU failure your temps are too high. Good Luck
Anyway, I'll try S&M see what it says. Thanks for the suggestion.

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I've run the memory through a lot of cycles through MemTest86+, I'm well under it's max stability numbers, so it shouldn't be the RAM. I was testing the 512k - 1024k in Prime because I thought that was testing the IMC. Testing the IMC should let me know if I have the NB (mostly) stable, so if I've lowered other speeds, like the memory and cpu, then I should have pretty much determined a failure on 1024k size test should be the IMC (NB), right?



Anyway, I'll try S&M see what it says. Thanks for the suggestion.

Marc
No problem.

I'm actually testing my NB right now. What I've done is put my memory timings to auto (that way you'll know they'll be looser than a 2 bit hooker), and the speed as low as it'll go to be sure that the memory isn't overclocking itself and giving me errors.
Then I run Memtest+4.00 for ~30 minutes, then bump the next 50MHz. So far I'm at 2550 NB @ 1.28v.

So far it's failed memtest once when I tried 2550MHz (NB) @ 1.24v. I just bumped the volts slightly and I'm back in business.

It's ideal to determine the limits of each component before going for your 24/7 OC. Then you'll be able to set all of the components up accordingly and you'll know what voltages (roughly) you'll need to run what.
Then once it's set up, you'll just be left with the fine tuning: voltages and RAM timings.

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@BlackOmega - getting a driver error when starting S&M. Can't install driver because it is not digitally signed, blah, blah, blah ...

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