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that's not the NB temp sensor. It's the cpu IHS. TMPIN1 seems to be the NB temp.
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DANG IT!!!!! You Bastage!!!! lol

I want one!!!!!!! I'm gonna RMA my board first. I went to the Beta 1.77, back to 1.60Of. then back to the 1.77 that I saved that had my three ROM saves and Now I can't flash ANYTHING.

I've tried Via USB in M-Flash, Floppy in M-Flash, Boot with Windows 98 Boot Disc then from Floppy and Nothin!!!

The Bastage of a thing is that when I try to Boot BIOS from my USB or even Boot from a Win98 Boot disc, I get this:

"Invalid Boot Drive. remove the media and press any key to continue"

GAAAH!! If I had more hair on my head than I do, I rip it out!!!!!
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Dir D,

Didn't you prime95 that sucker on all stock for a bit at least?
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yes...i kept going up in multipliers till 4Ghz..then upped the NB to 2.8 and ran it...turned it off for 15min then back on bad checksum and wouldnt go back to 2.8 only 2.6.

edit this ram only boots up to 1720 anything past that bad checksum bios resets auto.
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Im gonna throw this board out the window!!!
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wont boot past 2.6Ghz on the CPU-NB...its 100% stable at 4Ghz but i just keep getting a bad checksum error when i up the CPU-NB to 2.8 POS bios
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try clearing cmos after writing down your settings then try again
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dir_d:
What is your CPU-NB and NB voltage?
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Why doesn't he just SAVE his settings in the User settings area? lol

*** is a pencil?

Dir d,

That's why I asked if you Primed it at stock speeds? In that link that E posted a while back it said thus....

Originally posted by "S.M."
Many people have read or researched computer enthusiasts say things such as "To get your computer to overclock higher and more stable you need to burn it in!" This is completely misrepresented, and for the most part untrue. But not necissarily false.

The thought of burning in a somewhat unstable overclock for a long period of time is just rediculous. Parts of a computer are in a solid state and are as they are. They do not change for the better under stress like a human muscle, or like a freshly rebuilt motor.

I can see how people who do excercise frequently, or have experience with combustion engines might have transferred success with those to success with computers. But for the most part it's internet hogwash.

A word every computer enthusiast should know is electromigration.

Electromigration: Electromigration is the transport of material caused by the gradual movement of the ions in a conductor due to the momentum transfer between conducting electrons and diffusing metal atoms. The effect is important in applications where high direct current densities are used, such as in microelectronics and related structures. As the structure size in electronics such as integrated circuits (ICs) decreases, the practical significance of this effect increases.

TL;DR = Electromigration is a process at which electronic components transfer electricity more efficiently with use. It happens at all operating time, on any electronic item.

This is the closest thing to "burn-in" you can get with a computer. The only way to effectively speed-up electromigration is to LOWER your clock frequency, and raise voltage. By doing so for about about week will show some improvements. Unfortunately, electromigration takes so long to work, that the only imrpovement you should see is a higher clock frequency reached at stock voltages. Any overclock success at higher frequencies is on a "remain to be seen" level, and un-gauranteed.



Fun stuff I discovered when researching CPU burn in.

Refutable overclocking resource: "A system loses it's overclocking ability when operated at highly overclocked settings of high HTT/FSB and high Vcore for extended periods of time"

Globally accepted definition for Burn-in: "operating at highly overclocked settings for extended periods of time"

Hmmm?


Many people who do in fact burn-in their computers, will soon come to realize that in months time, they're computers will become more unstable then their initial overclock health status. This does not necissarily mean completely unstable. Side effects come on slowly, like cancer. First it will be an occasional BSOD. Intermittent gaming lag, or freezes. And it will soon turn into failing a computer stress test and lowering their overclock. These effects can take much longer than months as well.
It could take years. But it will eventually happen. This doesn't happen to everyone. But fair estimate of more than 50% of computer overclocking enthusiasts have had this happen to them, in some form or another. Again, these are the people that made an unstable overclock stable AFTER computer burn-in. Which isn't that many in general.
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