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I believe the problem lies in the fact that the memory was not out yet for the AMD setups and it was really a luck of the draw with weather or not these IMC's liked the chips. I think most of us are using intel based Ram modules which therein lies the problem.
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How much memory you have? Can you swap out sticks? Do a mem test. Every time I have inconsistent freezes like that, it's been my memory.
I'm using 2 sticks of 2gb Mushkin RAM. I'll try memtest but I don't think I have an extra DVD or a floppy to burn it on. Thanks for the tip though, I really hope its my memory and not my CPU. My temps seem OK though, never goes past 47 at load.
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I believe the problem lies in the fact that the memory was not out yet for the AMD setups and it was really a luck of the draw with weather or not these IMC's liked the chips. I think most of us are using intel based Ram modules which therein lies the problem.
Well what the "H.E. Double Hockey Sticks" is my issue then. I have OCZ Flex EX 2000Mhz 4 Gb kit. 8-8-8-30 @2.0-2.05 (2.35v ha-ha-ha), Water cooled.

I COULD, at one time run some nice OC's but I'm seriously thinking that it the IMC's on these chips in general.

OR the fact that I'm using an 810 (4Mb cache, unlockable though) Maybe that is causing it to be weak.... I REALLY don 't fricking know...

I have to use higher volts now to get anything stable... Even if I move back to an older bios where I had luck with lower volt OC's, Nothing. I stuggle to even hit 1600 With these Modules and this chip now. So it has to be the Chips that casuing everyone's issues!?

My C3 was supposed to shipped this week. but when I went to the Site to check if they received it from AMD yet (ETA of 12-2-09), it got pushed back another 2.5weeks. So the ETA is not until 12.19-09!!!! WTH????

Sorry for getting frustrated, publically.... But thatnks for listening.
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I have to use higher volts now to get anything stable... Even if I move back to an older bios where I had luck with lower volt OC's, Nothing. I stuggle to even hit 1600 With these Modules and this chip now. So it has to be the Chips that casuing everyone's issues!?
You may have burned out the IC's (integrated circuits) on those sticks. 2.3v, even though it was stable, was possibly more than they could handle for more than a few months or so.

The fact that they are not stable at previously stable speeds seems to support this. The D9GTR IC's are kinda like that from what I've read (haven't actually used them), they can overclock like crazy (think 2000~mhz cas8) but don't last long at those speeds/timings because of the high voltage needed.

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You may have burned out the IC's (integrated circuits) on those sticks. 2.3v, even though it was stable, was possibly more than they could handle for more than a few months or so.

The fact that they are not stable at previously stable speeds seems to support this. The D9GTR IC's are kinda like that from what I've read (haven't actually used them), they can overclock like crazy (think 2000~mhz cas8) but don't last long at those speeds/timings because of the high voltage needed.

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I only ran them at that to see how high I could get the MHz. Which was only one day. I started at 2.0 and worked my way up to that by the evening. So it's not like I was running at that for even close to an extended period of time. Normally I would only run them @ 1.9-2.1 and they're rated for 2.0-2.05v.... Plus they pass BLEND at lower timings and Mhz for 24+hours easily...

I wouldn't think that a half of a day of Benching off and on would do that!?
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I wouldn't think that a half of a day of Benching off and on would do that!?
I wouldn't think so either. They're supposed to be pretty good quality, too, so that little amount of time at higher volts shouldn't have mattered at all.

Give up on the 945 and get the 965, it's available and under $200. I can't bear to see you suffer like this!

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I wouldn't think so either. They're supposed to be pretty good quality, too, so that little amount of time at higher volts shouldn't have mattered at all.

Give up on the 945 and get the 965, it's available and under $200. I can't bear to see you suffer like this!

Marc
LOL- It all good!

"Good things come to those whom wait" my Friend.

I thought about it, but the 945 C3 is a 95w now! There's also a 95w C2 version of the 945. but I think we all know what to expect out of the C3's.

Plus, I don't mind cranking the HT Bus up to hit 4Ghz. Shoot I got my 810 up to THIS!

The 95w CPU's idle temps are like 17-19*C on my 120 x 120mm Rad. (In push/pull) water system...

I could crank the Volts up to 1.625+ and still only run at about 48-52*c Full Load temps. BUT, I don't like my level of comfort at that point.

Oh BTW, My ram has built in Water Cooling Jacket that keep them literaly Cool to the touch while cranking the volts. That's not to say that IF kept at higher volts thermalmigration wouldn't affect them, just because they're cool... IDK...

Well the Wife, my daughter and myself are off to pick out a nice Spruce for the front room. So I'll be back on here later this evening, at the latest.

I'm starting my "OCventure" over again. Got her Blending right now at this and I'm going to work my up again. I've fiddling around with settings way to much lately. So will let her get uses to some stress tests andI'll keep her moving upward. Hoefully I can get some stability back.

244Mhz x 13 3172Mhz CPU @ 1.355v (CPUZ= 1.336v not quite a .02Vdroop)
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My Last 8Mb 250Gb WD HD Ran @ 50-54*C.
This one Runs right at about 23*C and it uses a good amount less power AND it's Super Quiet. I could always hear my old one Spin up/down and shut of. I can't hear this one at all.
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You have amazing patience Mastiff....I have none when it comes to computer parts, if it dosent perform like it should i send it back ASAP haha. Just like i waited for the C3 got that quick and returned that C2 POS. I cant believe you are still waiting for that C3 i would have bought a 965 by now if i were in your shoes...

On a side note i got PhenomMsrTweaker working and my computer is stable at 2ghz@0.94v My computer was 22C with both my push/pull fans at 25% last night. Got really cold last night. Got my eletric bill and i was really mad so im doing everything i can to lower my voltage...I cant idle with my voltage lower than 1v though sucks but under load drops to 0.94v. Pretty sure it has to due with PhenomMsrTweaker only using VIDs instead straight volts with our board.
Edited by dir_d - 12/5/09 at 11:58am
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look what the mail lady brought me. I'm going to be attaching it next week to this msi board and cpu and go for 7. It's a full cooper beast and nickle plated.



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look what the mail lady brought me. I'm going to be attaching it next week to this msi board and cpu and go for 7. It's a full cooper beast and nickle plated.



the heck is that? looks cool.
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