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Like I said, It's best for HDT coolers, because you've got those teeny-tiny little gaps in-between pipes, and TX-3 fills those gaps quite nicely. Some folks give it bad reviews because they applied it improperly. It actually takes about a little over/under an hour for the application process to complete, mostly because the stuff is so thick. You must have patience!
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How does the 890FX-GD70 differ from 790FX-GD70?

http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/11/m...mera/6078.html

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Newer chipset USB 3.0 and SATA3 6gbps ports more 16x PCIE slots... just a better board...id wait till the next gen 6core chips come out before upgrading because i dont need more PCIE slots usb 3.0 or 6gbps SATA ports. Id like to see how the next gen chips run on that board and the 790FX
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Newer chipset USB 3.0 and SATA3 6gbps ports more 16x PCIE slots... just a better board...id wait till the next gen 6core chips come out before upgrading because i dont need more PCIE slots usb 3.0 or 6gbps SATA ports. Id like to see how the next gen chips run on that board and the 790FX
oh okay, thanks.
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Like I said, It's best for HDT coolers, because you've got those teeny-tiny little gaps in-between pipes, and TX-3 fills those gaps quite nicely. Some folks give it bad reviews because they applied it improperly. It actually takes about a little over/under an hour for the application process to complete, mostly because the stuff is so thick. You must have patience!
Have you tried warming it in a boiling cup of water to make it easier to apply like you have to do with IC7?

The problem with the method they talk about is that it creates air pockets! IC7 is very thick, like I said I had to warm it and then after letting my CPU heat up I had to tighten down my mega three times as it spread out.

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Newer chipset USB 3.0 and SATA3 6gbps ports more 16x PCIE slots... just a better board...id wait till the next gen 6core chips come out before upgrading because i dont need more PCIE slots usb 3.0 or 6gbps SATA ports. Id like to see how the next gen chips run on that board and the 790FX
Agreed!
Defiantly wait as we really have no use for the extra bandwidth right now. We have not saturated PCI-E 1 or SATA2 as well as USB 2.0. So there ius really no need for it right now.
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I just bought my MSI 790FX-GD70 and an AMD 965 Black Edition.

So far so good.... I think.

It's my first AMD board and processor!

I am having difficulty setting my RAM timings for my 2x2GB Corsair Dominator GT.

Defaults are 7-7-7-20, 2T @1600mhz

I don't mind it running the timings so much at 9-9-9-24, 1T automatically. The only thing is, even if I set them to the OEM timings, voltage, and clock. It will not run at 1600mhz.... Maybe I am doing something wrong?

I have a hard time finding the answers to the questions I have on the internet, so I figured I would ask here.

I REALLY want to overclock. It runs stable at 3.8Ghz right now by changing nothing but the multiplier on the CPU.

My benchmarks on AMD Overdrive are around 8800 for system performance, which is satisfactory, but I am really striving for more.

I have very little experience overclocking. I would like to up the NB and the HT. I made a few cautious attempts and failed miserably.

Ideally, I want to run this processor/mobo at 4.4Ghz, NB at as close to 3.0 that I can get, and HT at 2.8. I am going to get 2 more sticks of RAM in the next few days to support the unganged memory function. I would also like to run my memory at least 1600mhz (hopefully more, but if I could pull of 1T timings @ 1600, that would be great).

I have a corsair H50 Hydro cooler as well.

Any help in better understanding how ram timings, overclocking (CPU,NB,HT), voltaging, etc. would be much appreciated.
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I just bought my MSI 790FX-GD70 and an AMD 965 Black Edition.

I am having difficulty setting my RAM timings for my 2x2GB Corsair Dominator GT.

Defaults are 7-7-7-20, 2T @1600mhz

I don't mind it running the timings so much at 9-9-9-24, 1T automatically. The only thing is, even if I set them to the OEM timings, voltage, and clock. It will not run at 1600mhz.... Maybe I am doing something wrong?

I have very little experience overclocking. I would like to up the NB and the HT. I made a few cautious attempts and failed miserably.

Ideally, I want to run this processor/mobo at 4.4Ghz, NB at as close to 3.0 that I can get, and HT at 2.8. I am going to get 2 more sticks of RAM in the next few days to support the unganged memory function. I would also like to run my memory at least 1600mhz (hopefully more, but if I could pull of 1T timings @ 1600, that would be great).

Any help in better understanding how ram timings, overclocking (CPU,NB,HT), voltaging, etc. would be much appreciated.
Up the RAM volts by about .02 - .04 @ the specified timings and speed. This should do it. Memory is the hardest thing to get stable when overclocking with AMD platforms right now.

You should be able to run the memory at 1t and you can run it unganged with only 2 sticks. There isn't much need for more than 4GB, and running 4 sticks puts undue strain on the IMC (internal memory controller) on the chip.

If you're running a x64 O/S you won't get much past 4.0 stable, maybe 4.1, but you need very low temps to get that+ stable with AMD, and only with the C3's. There are a small number of C2's that can break into 4.0+ territory (stable), but not many at all.

NB 2.8 is a sweet spot with these chips.

Increasing HT does nothing for performance, so don't worry about it, it can even lower performance with many app's including games. Leave it between 1800 and 2000.

If running an array with your drives, than bump the SB volts to 1.25.

Run Prime95 Blend for a minimum of three hours to test for complete system stability after you are where you want to be, and adjust volts (ask in here) as needed.

Good luck!

Also, please click "User CP" at the top of the page and put in all of your system specs in the "edit system" section for us, it helps us know what you have so we can be as specific with our advice.

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Have you tried warming it in a boiling cup of water to make it easier to apply like you have to do with IC7? The problem with the method they talk about is that it creates air pockets! IC7 is very thick, like I said I had to warm it and then after letting my CPU heat up I had to tighten down my mega three times as it spread out.
I told you, it's designed not to bleed out under pressure, so I'm not sure how that would go. You could certainly try that way. I just spent an hour spreading it carefully and making sure all bubbles were popped. Even in there were air pockets, surely tightening your HS would push them out the side?
    
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Have you tried warming it in a boiling cup of water to make it easier to apply like you have to do with IC7?

The problem with the method they talk about is that it creates air pockets! IC7 is very thick, like I said I had to warm it and then after letting my CPU heat up I had to tighten down my mega three times as it spread out.



Agreed!
Defiantly wait as we really have no use for the extra bandwidth right now. We have not saturated PCI-E 1 or SATA2 as well as USB 2.0. So there ius really no need for it right now.
Yeah air pockets would totally defeat the purpose of geting better Thermal compound...

I agreeon that Board.... BUT, she sure is Pretty!!!!
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I told you, it's designed not to bleed out under pressure, so I'm not sure how that would go. You could certainly try that way. I just spent an hour spreading it carefully and making sure all bubbles were popped. Even in there were air pockets, surely tightening your HS would push them out the side?
See thats just the thing. If it is designed not to come out easily then where is all that TIM going. It would be a very think layer between your CPU and HSF. I am going to get some and see what happens.

Ok guys I have noticed a lot of questions about overclocking recently and have thus put a different (better suited) OC guide in the first post.
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