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Dont worry about 1333 that Ram should be able to run CAS6@1600>CAS5@1333. Then once you get it stable at CAS6@1600 i would start cranking up the Bus speed. Your ram probably wont perform well on your chip though because its a C2.
then why OC it above 1333 at all?
    
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What is HTT? Hyper threading technology? Or did I say something stupid? I've never heard of the bus reference clock referred to as the HTT. Maybe Im older on the technology terminology than I thought?
It COULD just be referred to as FSB, but Eclipse would probably sh**...
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then why OC it above 1333 at all?
What i was trying to say is that the C3 chips will allow you to push your ram further than the C2 chip because of the rework of the IMC. You can still attempt to run past 1600, you might have one of the good chips and it will run at high frequencies no problem but the majority of the C2 chips have had a problem getting past 1700mhz.
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So I've got memory with max speeds of 2133MHz, but eclipse tells me my CPU will only safely support a max speed of 1600MHz. How come?

Also, do any of youse guys use Black Box instead of CPU-Z?
Because of the IMC's Max "Supported" Ram freq. of 1333Mhz. But 1600Mhz is pretty easy to get stable with some "Know how" like Eclipse has! 1333Mhz is easiest. Which is sad to say, the way that a lot of people like to take... No biggie... Also "Safely Supported" as Eclipse said, means that it can be possible to go above that but with "Unsafe" settings. As you will see in this post with one of my pics...


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I have never used it until just now and i must say i like it

Download it

Now i can't say anything for or against its accuracy but check out my screenshot...i have 939 pins?


I just realized that your 810 has 4096KB in the L3....i must have missed the memo on when AMD dropped the L3 cache
Well the 810 was wone of the more "budget" based Phenom II's when they were first released. It was very few that had it. They'll mostly if not all 6Mb L3 Caahe now.

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Okay so, If you're trying to run 2133mhz on a MSI 790FX-GD70 which you are. I assume you would have to lower the CPU clocks and raise the Reference clock or BUS clock. At least thats what I call it. Some people I think call it the HTT. You would probably have to match 3.4ghz while matching 2ghz on the HyperTransports Link and FSB and then use the ratio setting to get the ram to speed you want. As for "Killing your processor because the ram was clocked too high?" I can't say I understand how that works myself.

Where ever did you hear that confusion?
One doesn't neccessarily have to run specific CPU or HT link Speeds to have stability and from my experience OCing other parts of the system while trying to OC the Ram get more difficult as the OC's get higher... Just the way that it works!

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Here are some numbers I've come up with based on someone else who's got the exact same setup as me, give or take. I'm going to try to plug these in unless someone objects.

Target Core Speed: 4GHz
Core Multiplier: 20x
Bus Speed: 200 MHz
FSB : 2000 Mhz
[EDIT: Forgot the Voltage]
Core Voltage: 1.488V
RAM Settings:
Speed: 2133MHz @ 9-9-9-28
No offense but this Ram speed will not work! It's just to high from my knowledge of the IMC's.

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Dont worry about 1333 that Ram should be able to run CAS6@1600>CAS5@1333. Then once you get it stable at CAS6@1600 i would start cranking up the Bus speed. Your ram probably wont perform well on your chip though because its a C2.
Okay, I'll post it one more time for you... LOL



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What i was trying to say is that the C3 chips will allow you to push your ram further than the C2 chip because of the rework of the IMC. You can still attempt to run past 1600, you might have one of the good chips and it will run at high frequencies no problem but the majority of the C2 chips have had a problem getting past 1700mhz.
Iwill admit that your are right to a point as far as the C3 handling Ram more stably BUT I think that the 1700Mhz wall was due to lack of proper settings... that's just my opinion though...


BTW, that pic is a C2 PhenomII x 4 810 for those of you that didn't know.
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i'm thinking of getting this board for my rig and was wondering if the board is picky with rams. i won't be ocing too much, just mildly, are there any cheap/good rams that you would recommend?
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ok then, I will set the ram for 1333MHz @ auto
    
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Q: "will my RAM fit?"
A: That will depend on your setup. The ram slots are quite close to the CPU but with most if not all as long as your Ram is less then 1.5" tall it will fit.(ask to be sure)
Just curious what height of the ram has to do with anything? I was only worried about width when I ordered the mobo (don't understand what is hindering you from running say a 10" tall stick of ram?)

I got some tall ram on the way with this mobo on the way.. Will this be an issue?

edit: this is the stuff I ordered
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ok then, I will set the ram for 1333MHz @ auto
No you need t set your timing manually...try CAS6@1333 the try CAS5@1333
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Tryxx,

how do you like those 5770's in CF? Are they scaling well?
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