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Guys, After long thoughts and erm and ahhs.. I've decided to switch over (this board is so sexy, never have I used the looks of a board to make me choose amd/intel) and have settled on the 965 plus this board.

Now, I need some advise on teh ram please.

There is a selection of chips from overclockers.co.uk but.. but not sure which to get.

Obviously the 965 will be OC'd on water and i'd like the best I can get for as little as possable (my money tree died during the cold weather).

Have seen Geil Ultra Series 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-17000 2133MHz and wondering if is a bad buy or not.

Or G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-16000C9 2000MHz


I would have asked in the AMD RAM section, but I want something to match this board, as it's the one I will be getting. Also any recommendations for the said board / cpu would be appreciated (upto around £100/$160).


Thanks for any info..

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I like Corsair. I do not like G.Skill and I find their support is subpar. Just be careful with the ram voltage. This motherboard at least at Bios 1.1 does not like 1.9v OCZ ram. This motherboard says 1.5v Ram. Now mind you you can adjust the voltage. That ram should be fine though. If this is your first AMD Build in a while I wouldn't go too overboard on the ram unless you have something for sure works so you can get into the bios and adjust settings while stable. I find that if the ram is not stable the bios menu can often freeze. Someone else might be able to point you in a good direction.

I use a kit of CMD4GX3M2A1600C8 and I use it on the MS-7577 and it works just fine. And I've run Memtest on it twice at the 1600mhz stock. Works fine. Other corsair memory modules will work too.
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I use a kit of CMD4GX3M2A1600C8 and I use it on the MS-7577 and it works just fine. And I've run Memtest on it twice at the 1600mhz stock. Works fine. Other corsair memory modules will work too.
Yeah, It's been a while last build was the 939 back in 2005ish.

I got Corsair now, and they are stable.

I might get another pair of Corsairs modules. Knowing that the ones your running works, thats good enough for me.

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Yea they definitely work. But, there are most likely better modules faster modules from Corsair that work too.

CMG4GX3M2A2000C8 Will probably work too. But, I would just try to run the ram with tighter timings. Don't take my word for it though. The ones I have definitely work and they scored a 7.7 in Windows 7. If that means anything to you. But, The CL7 version of mine work too I would bet.
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Hello everyone,

Let me start off by saying that I am pretty new to overclocking so when talking to me no information is too much.

I have been trying to reach some of the numbers that have been posted in the this thread and I am able to reach most of them that I have tried. I'm up to 3.9 @ 1.42 on the CPU atm, I havnt made to many other changes to the BIOS. I have been trying to get some of the NB numbers that a couple of you have been getting, mine is at 2.4 @ 1.2 and it seems like every time I try and hop up to 2.8 it wont even boot windows, even if i match the numbers posted by people who have about the same setup as me.

I won't even get to the RAM timing problems I have been seeing, I'll just try to get one thing good to go at a time.

Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Yea they definitely work. But, there are most likely better modules faster modules from Corsair that work too.

CMG4GX3M2A2000C8 Will probably work too. But, I would just try to run the ram with tighter timings. Don't take my word for it though. The ones I have definitely work and they scored a 7.7 in Windows 7. If that means anything to you. But, The CL7 version of mine work too I would bet.
Yep, no doubt there are better, but also the price starts to climb too.

Im happy with the ones I got, but are DDr2 (damm) .. as for windows score I currently get 7.3 (not thats its really useful but still, in my book 7.7 is higher than 7.3)

I think I can stretch to CMG4GX3M2B1600C7 but not struck on the red (hoping to have a black / grey / blue theme also), prefer the CMD4GX3M2A1600C8 (would suit the board better lol). Slightly slower then the 2000mhz but I dont think I would notice much difference.

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I have a question on the MSI 790GX-G65. I am assuming the BIOS is very similar to the FX so I'm asking my question here. I've been using the AMD overdrive to change my multipliers and voltages, but the changes don't stick when I restart, and I'm starting to think they won't. So I went into the Cell menu to manualy change them, but the voltages are grayed out and set to [AUTO] and I can't change them. I can set my multipliers, but I can only get to 18.5 on stock voltages, so I've got a problem.
did you try the + and - keys to change the voltages?

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Just like any heatsink really. I have found that using a little mound in the middle of the Processor about the size of a Pea.

LITERALLY About this big: O

BTW, what kind are you using. Rule of thumb is to seat the heatsink.

Run a full load on all cores at max heat for about 10-15 Minutes. Trun pC off and let it cool down to room temps. THAT is ONE HEAT CYCLE.

Once cool, turn PC back on and Run another Heat Cycle, then one more time. This usually helps set the TIM. SOme suggest making sure that the PC is run for 200+ hours before the TIM is set as well. Eclipseaudio suggests tightening the Heatsink (If possible) after a few heat cycles more. (Is that what you said E?)
That is correct. It does depend on what TIM you are using but I think with most of them you will be able to tighten it down more.
You want good pressure on it which will help to thin the tim out and give you the best results IMHO.
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Geil Ultra Series 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-17000 2133MHz and wondering if is a bad buy or not.
These Geil's look like some pretty nice sticks. Good timings @ low volts.

You should be able to run it pretty easily at CAS 7 @ 1600MHz possibly CAS 6. And it's low profile so mounting coolers and such won't pose much of an issue. And they're £12.00 cheaper.
That's the RAM I'd go with.

As for Corsair being better, I don't know about that. The first set of Corsair XMS I bought, one of the sticks died after only 20 days. And they weren't even overclocked. Then it took almost 4 weeks to get a replacement set. AFAIK, when you RMA through them they send the sticks to Taiwan for testing. At any rate the replacement sticks work great and I haven't had any issues since.

Corsairs are nice but you've got to look at the specs and the IC's (integrated circuits). You'd be surprised to see that a lot of the performance RAM has similar if not the same as some other manufacturer.

At any rate good Luck


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Hello everyone,

Let me start off by saying that I am pretty new to overclocking so when talking to me no information is too much.

I have been trying to reach some of the numbers that have been posted in the this thread and I am able to reach most of them that I have tried. I'm up to 3.9 @ 1.42 on the CPU atm, I havnt made to many other changes to the BIOS. I have been trying to get some of the NB numbers that a couple of you have been getting, mine is at 2.4 @ 1.2 and it seems like every time I try and hop up to 2.8 it wont even boot windows, even if i match the numbers posted by people who have about the same setup as me.

I won't even get to the RAM timing problems I have been seeing, I'll just try to get one thing good to go at a time.

Any info is greatly appreciated.
JrodJared, It's not a good idea to jump your CPU/NB frequency like that. You don't want to go from 2400 MHz to 2800MHz in 1 step. You want to gradually work your way up and prime95 blend test each step. This is fairly important because memory errors will corrupt the OS.
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@Lazereus

Im no expert but I too was / still am having the same error as you and its only during periods of gaming or when something is stressing my GPU. I talked to a gentlemen at a local shop that mention that ATI cards dont artifact like Nvidia and in stead will just crash to save themselves when they overheat.

Also mentioned that ATI cards cant handle the voltage draw when you turn up there heatsink fan and they crash causing that error.

I'm pretty sure my flood sync error is due in part to a bad GPU that cant handle heat and voltage. I dont go higher than 60 c while gaming and will crash... So I think its just a bad gpu.

hope that helps,
syncflood error seems to happen when sitting idle in the windows user selection menu, when I click on other user it reboots, my 5850 temp hasn't gone much above 50C under load fan at 45% using overdrive

I will put a fan on northbridge, currently 60C, 70C while gaming,

I'll stay logged into windows under my user, all sleep functions disabled, C &Q off
if that dosen't work

i'm considering fresh install of O/S to loose all drivers, (I have used 3 very different GPU cards during this build)

any suggestions?
sorry for the length

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Guys, After long thoughts and erm and ahhs.. I've decided to switch over (this board is so sexy, never have I used the looks of a board to make me choose amd/intel) and have settled on the 965 plus this board.

Now, I need some advise on teh ram please.

There is a selection of chips from overclockers.co.uk but.. but not sure which to get.

Obviously the 965 will be OC'd on water and i'd like the best I can get for as little as possable (my money tree died during the cold weather).

Have seen Geil Ultra Series 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-17000 2133MHz and wondering if is a bad buy or not.

Or G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-16000C9 2000MHz


I would have asked in the AMD RAM section, but I want something to match this board, as it's the one I will be getting. Also any recommendations for the said board / cpu would be appreciated (upto around £100/$160).


Thanks for any info..

Id
Also if you plan on going with G-Skill you may wanna check on their website if that set is capable of being paired with another set exactly like it. Never know, you may wanna buy a second set for 8 gigs one day and find out it says on their site that some of their 2x2 4 gig sets don't work together and aren't supported by them. A couple people have posted this issue in the reviews section on newgg and G Skill has responded with the fact it hasn't been tested therefore is not supported. This was the main reason I didn't go with G Skill, instead I went with some Patriot high performance Viper 2 series ram, DDR3 1600 7-7-7-20 @ 1.9.
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