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There was a ram test done on this very same motherboard at speeds of DDR3 1333mhz(6-6-6-24) vs DDR3 1600mhz(7-7-7-24)

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=55369

DDR3 1333 turned out to be faster.

So guys don't kill yourselves trying to get uber speeds..
Edited by ToxicAdam - 12/20/09 at 8:33pm
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Well i have found a renewed love for my ram.(turns out I just did not know what I was doing ) I just want to see how fast I can get it to go on semi stock timmings. Then I will be trying to lower them at ~1333. Considering that my ram is rated 9-9-9-28-1T(I think 1T) @ 1600 and 1.65-1.75. I think that now that I know what i am doing (kinda) I should be able to squeeze some performance out of them.

EDIT: well 1704 stable NB is getting quite warm @59*c little high for my liking but no pain no gain. As well as my RAM getting just warm to the touch after some major stress
CPU is still maxing @ 54*c so I know I am fine there. I just wish I could tell how hot my ram is getting
I will say one thing tho my den is getting hotter by the min. I may have to open a window to let some out. lol
Edited by eclipseaudio4 - 12/20/09 at 7:45pm
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Correct. 1.424v is right at the edge of stability. I passed OCCT stress test twice and failed twice at that voltage. In the real world 1.424v would be enough.
If I run prime95 SmallFFT's it's stable @ 4Ghz (200x20) @ 1.425v (1.41 in Evst and 1.408v in CPUZ). BUT, if I run that in BLEND mode on P95, I have to drop the multi to 19.5 for 3900 for 8+hrs stability.

That's running my NB @ 2800 (1.28v) and my Ram @ 1600Mhz@ 7-7-7-21-28-1T @ 2.05
CPU DDR-PHY @ 1.25v
NBChpst and HTlink @ 1.30v

Now I'm at

CPU @3914Mhz @ 1.45vBIOS, 1.43vEvst., 1.432-1.44vCPUZ.
CPUNB @2884Mhz @ 1.28vBIOS, 1.31vEvst.
Ram @1648MHz @ 2.05v/ 1.25v C/D-P (CPU DDR-PHY) 7-7-7-21-28-1T

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Well guys I got the bug.(well rekindled it) I was sitting here and decided my ram and FSB/HTT were to slow. as of right now I have found I can max FSB/HTT of ~ 260 and am currently working on my ram.(first time OC'ing RAM) I am @ 1680 9-9-9-21 1T with 1.85 and 1.35 CPU-DDR-PLL.
Thanks mastiffman!
I think I am high with the voltages but I am working my way up in speed so I set it high so that I can just use the OC dial.
You bet! It's cool that Ram has such awesome Warrantees. [thinking] Crank them volts! lol

That C/D-P really works nice!

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There was a ram test done on this very same motherboard at speeds of DDR3 1333mhz(6-6-6-24) vs DDR3 1600mhz(7-7-7-24)

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=55369

DDR3 1333 turned out to be faster.

So guys don't kill yourselves trying to get uber speeds..
You know what though!? What a lot of people don't realize is that those tests were done with the CPUNB @ 2600 on the 1333Mhz tests and the 1600Mhz were @ 2000 CPUNB. So of course it's faster. 1600Mhz CL6 with 2600+NB is the way to go! just take some tweaken to ge there but it's worth it.

When E gets his Ram running @CL7 with those freq's it'l be better...

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Well i have found a renewed love for my ram.(turns out I just did not know what I was doing ) I just want to see how fast I can get it to go on semi stock timmings. Then I will be trying to lower them at ~1333. Considering that my ram is rated 9-9-9-28-1T(I think 1T) @ 1600 and 1.65-1.75. I think that now that I know what i am doing (kinda) I should be able to squeeze some performance out of them.

EDIT: well 1704 stable NB is getting quite warm @59*c little high for my liking but no pain no gain. As well as my RAM getting just warm to the touch after some major stress
CPU is still maxing @ 54*c so I know I am fine there. I just wish I could tell how hot my ram is getting
I will say one thing tho my den is getting hotter by the min. I may have to open a window to let some out. lol
That's a grat feeling! It's almost like new Ram! Ha!

Ram warm to the touch after some stress testing is Fine. When I first istalled ym OCZ Flex (meaning air or water cooled) EX Ram I didn't water cool them and they ere literally HOT to the touch, not warm. But they stress tested fine up to 1650Mhz and they just seemed to get to hot. Plus I though that I was hitting a heat wall and that's why I couldn't hit 2000Mhz. LOL- What a NOOB I was... I had them in for less than 6 hours and I threw them into my water loop. Needless to say they cooled right down and are still cool after hours of stress in Blend or a Gaming.

If you are stable @ 1704, try lowering the NBChst Voltage .01v ata time priming in between each decrease... That should lower your temps slowly!

Also, if you have the stock AMD CPU Fan available or can get one, use a couple of 1" HS fan screws from an old HS and lightely thread them into the NB/ mosfet HS fins. That wil hold the fan there.

Like this.

Edited by Mastiffman - 12/20/09 at 9:11pm
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You know what though!? What a lot of people don't realize is that those tests were done with the CPUNB @ 2600 on the 1333Mhz tests and the 1600Mhz were @ 2000 CPUNB. So of course it's faster. 1600Mhz CL6 with 2600+NB is the way to go! just take some tweaken to ge there but it's worth it.
Are you sure about that?

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Keeping things simple I tested 1333 ram speed and 1600 ram speed both with 1T timings. I also kept CPU, HT and CPU-NB clocks constant...the only changes were ram clock speed and base timings.

1333 6-6-6-24 tRC 28 1T
1600 7-7-7-24 tRC 30 1T
I'm reading they were the same.
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Correct. 1.424v is right at the edge of stability. I passed OCCT stress test twice and failed twice at that voltage. In the real world 1.424v would be enough.
In the real world it failed twice. Did you run Prime95 for 8 hours or more? Prime stresses it completely including the RAM and that's where you'll see stability issues. IMO, 8 hours is the minimum to be able to claim stability. Ideally, when doing final stability testing you'd run it for 24 hours or more.

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idk why a lot of ppl trashtalk the gskill sticks, im running the ripjaw 7-8-7-24s completely stable @ 1600mhz the only thing that could cause an issue is an outdated bios, and whoever runs that old of a bios shouldn't run this high end hardware anyways at least how i feel about it.
Personally, I've heard nothing but good things about G.Skill RAM. Overclocks great and is usually reasonably priced.

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Well guys I got the bug.(well rekindled it) I was sitting here and decided my ram and FSB/HTT were to slow. as of right now I have found I can max FSB/HTT of ~ 260 and am currently working on my ram.(first time OC'ing RAM) I am @ 1680 9-9-9-21 1T with 1.85 and 1.35 CPU-DDR-PLL.
How much stability does increasing that voltage add? Has anyone tried testing it on a C2 revision chip?
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How much stability does increasing that voltage add? Has anyone tried testing it on a C2 revision chip?
I am running a C2. Now for some timing tweeks!

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Originally Posted by Mastiffman View Post

You bet! It's cool that Ram has such awesome Warrantees. [thinking] Crank them volts! lol

That C/D-P really works nice!

Also, if you have the stock AMD CPU Fan available or can get one, use a couple of 1" HS fan screws from an old HS and lightely thread them into the NB/ mosfet HS fins. That wil hold the fan there.
Trust me volts have been going up. I have a similar fan on there right now. lol
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In the real world it failed twice.
Nope, been using 1.424v for awhile now.

I've been playing games, watching and encoding movies just fine. In real life you will NEVER put that much stress on the CPU you see in these torture tests.

1.424v was at my edge of stability so I knew it would work outside of a torture test.. considering it manage to pass a couple torture tests on its own.

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Did you run Prime95 for 8 hours or more?
Prime95 was nothing. Passed it on an overnight test. OCCT gave me the real challenge.
Edited by ToxicAdam - 12/20/09 at 10:22pm
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Well here's where I am at so far. ~stock on left OC on right. I cant seem to get the timings down to save my life so I guess I will stick with OC'ing the ram.
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Well here's where I am at so far. ~stock on left OC on right. I cant seem to get the timings down to save my life so I guess I will stick with OC'ing the ram.
CPU should be running cool at only 1.40v

I have never mess with northbridge or anything..
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CPU should be running cool at only 1.40v

I have never mess with northbridge or anything..
uh no thats VID I am running anywhere between 1.54(24/7) to 1.65 lol
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