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Rewind I was only giving a suggestion to the fellow...

I saw that thread that you are talking about. It will still have an affect on overall bandwidth making everything more efficient... To each there own I guess. It's more for multitasking. Like Running downloads, moving large folders, running uploads, burning DVD's on the fly and playing games all at once.... But remember rewind, ULTIMATELY (IMHO) it's all about having fun with it and making connections. Not just in the PC but you and I and everyone else. If none of us wanted to try and improve our PC's we probably wouldn't even have this thread to come to... Right? Just a though good friend...
Well i was simply bringing it up...i would prefer not to run my NB at 50C/60C all day ever day etc if its not even going to do anything...everyone in that thread was going on about anything past 2200Mhz isn't really effective and that overclocking it without having an SSD or fast HDD raid setup isn't worth it

I am all for getting everything out of my system but if i am risking my hardware when i am clocking and volting something up for nothing more then a superfluous benchmark or two il pass...i am in this for real world results

From everything i had read before that thread clocking up the NB should speed up everything since it's being in close connection to the L3 cache

So you believe it helps during high bandwith activity's?
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Well i was simply bringing it up...i would prefer not to run my NB at 50C/60C all day ever day etc if its not even going to do anything...everyone in that thread was going on about anything past 2200Mhz isn't really effective and that overclocking it without having an SSD or fast HDD raid setup isn't worth it

I am all for getting everything out of my system but if i am risking my hardware when i am clocking and volting something up for nothing more then a superfluous benchmark or two il pass...i am in this for real world results

From everything i had read before that thread clocking up the NB should speed up everything since it's being in close connection to the L3 cache

So you believe it helps during high bandwith activity's?
Well here is what the AMD Drogon performance tuning guide says.

CPU NorthBridge Performance Tuning

"The CPU NorthBridge (CPU NB) clock speed determines the efficiency and bandwidth capacity of the Memory
controller. L3 cache runs at this frequency as well. CPU NB performance tuning gives a measurable boost for
overall system performance. In particular it can reduce the Memory latency and improve L3 cache bandwidth
and latency. In some scenarios the CPU NB should be tuned in order to take the full advantage of overclocked
Memory frequency and bandwidth. In general the CPU NB clock should be at least three times the Memory
clock (example in case of DDR3-1600: 3 x 800MHz = 2400MHz NB clock).
"

And that's my final answer!!! lol

This is where I get it from. Plus my experience with it...

Do you know how cache works?
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yeah I feel I can tune this board better than the gigabyte. There's some options that seem to be missing that I used on the msi to obtain some bleeding edge speeds.
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yeah I feel I can tune this board better than the gigabyte. There's some options that seem to be missing that I used on the msi to obtain some bleeding edge speeds.
What's up D? Merry Christmas to you both!

Yeah , this thing is really a nice board. I have my CPU-NB Stable @ 3000Mhz @ 1.4v (1.43v in everest. Any idea why this is?)

BUT, I'm trying to get my Ram stable @ 1333Mhz 7-7-7-21-28-1T @ 1.9v and it seems the only way is to pump the CPU-NB volts...

Any suggestions? CPU DDR-PHY isn't working...
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Hey guys, I just put my sig rig together and Im having trouble setting up raid0. Ive downloaded the manual and Its somewhat confusing. Can someone help me out a little with a little guide.

I have 2 74gb raptors btw.

thanks for your help.
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I'm trying to get my Ram stable @ 1333Mhz 7-7-7-21-28-1T @ 1.9v and it seems the only way is to pump the CPU-NB volts...

Any suggestions? CPU DDR-PHY isn't working...
Mastiffman, I have the AMD Black Edition OCZ DDR3, CL8. I set it up, got 1600Mhz 8-8-8-20-28-1t @ 1.68v running just fine. I couldn't, for the life of me, get it past 1640Mhz, even setting 8-8-8-27-40-1t @ 1.7v.

So, I said the heck with it, I'm just going to see how fast I can get it @ any timings. I set timings to auto, and started clocking the speed. Long story short is I ended up with 1816Mhz @ 9-11-11-24-40-1t, 1.7v.

So, I figured it could do better timings and just started lowering them slowly, and stress testing each adjustment.

I'm running 1800Mhz 8-9-8-24-32-1t @ 1.71v w/CPU DDR PHY @ 1.35v, and it's running great. For the record, I found the CPU DDR PHY volts to be most useful when using high speeds, and less effective @ lower speeds. I had IntelBurn stable speed, but it felt 'weak', and probably would not have passed Blend, adding in CPU DDR PHY volts, bettered the Everest memory scores, and it seemed 'stronger'. I also think it's especially useful with high CPU clocks and high RAM speeds together.

So, try getting the speed you want @ auto timings, and then slowly lowering them, see what you can get. I bet you could get around 1800Mhz @ 6-7-6-18-27-1t out of those sticks.

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Hey guys, I just put my sig rig together and Im having trouble setting up raid0. Ive downloaded the manual and Its somewhat confusing. Can someone help me out a little with a little guide.

I have 2 74gb raptors btw.

thanks for your help.
Prior to install, be sure to set up the RAID in the bios, and RAID utility. During install (Windows) have a usb flash drive with the SB/RAID driver on it. Get it from MSI's website, for this board, the most recent.

When you are loading Windows, it will need the driver to be able to recognize the stripe, and allow you to install on it. Use a USB stick, not the CD, when you are swapping CD's to add the driver it sometimes confuses Windows, and it can cause a problem trying to get the install completed.

Add the driver in from the USB stick, and continue with the Windows install.

Do you need more details?

Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!

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