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I'm about to get this boad with a 3.4 AMD and I don't know how much ram to get 4 or 6 Gigs. With 6 I'm affriad I my not use it but mainly if the board and AMD support triple channel mem with they type of mem I'm getting.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231269

or something smaller that does not support x3 mem

will it support 2200 mem on the msi webpage of the board it says 2133 but with a bios flash it could go higer ...

Also some suggestion on memory would be great.
the faster the better
Edited by AndreL - 12/28/09 at 10:57am

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Hi guys, i am getting this board in January with a Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition proc, it will be my 1st AMD build since the days of the Barton XP :-D, i need to decide on a decent air cooler as well....

My prob is that i have no idea what mem to get as the proc supports DDR3-1333, but i understand higher mem speeds are supported by overclocking, are the benefits of faster mem worth the extra price in real world performance.
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I'm about to get this boad with a 3.4 AMD and I don't know how much ram to get 4 or 6 Gigs. With 6 I'm affriad I my not use it but mainly if the board and AMD support triple channel mem with they type of mem I'm getting.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231269

or something smaller that does not support x3 mem

will it support 2200 mem on the msi webpage of the board it says 2133 but with a bios flash it could go higer ...

Also some suggestion on memory would be great.
the faster the better
Depends on your budget. And, I assume you are getting a AMD Phenom II 965 CPU?

You will want to get 2x2GB DDR3 memory kit if you get the C2 stepping CPU.

if you can afford it, get 2x 2x2GB DDR3 memory (for 8GB of RAM, 4 chips) if you get the C3 Stepping CPU since the IMC seems to work better with 4 banks of memory C3 stepping CPUs.

As for what kind of memory, I like my Mushkin DDR3-1600 Blacklines, but they are a bit pricey compared to other brands (unless you can get them with the $20 MIR like I did lol)

Good luck on your setup.
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Hi guys, i am getting this board in January with a Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition proc, it will be my 1st AMD build since the days of the Barton XP :-D, i need to decide on a decent air cooler as well....

My prob is that i have no idea what mem to get as the proc supports DDR3-1333, but i understand higher mem speeds are supported by overclocking, are the benefits of faster mem worth the extra price in real world performance.
Mushkin, Crucial, and Patriot are usually really good. Some people have hit and miss with OCZ. I have never had trouble with OCZs. I have even used A-Data and G.Skill, and not had an issue one.

As for coolers, check out this link for air coolers that are either great for heat dissipation or less noise:

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

Go down a ways for the top AMD heatsinks rated by them.

For their comprehensive list, go here:

http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2473&page=2

If it were me choosing based on the info there, and the prices from NewEgg, I'd pick this cooler:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835119115

That cooler is $50 w/shipping and has about 5.3dB less noise then the Xigmatek above it with only .3C difference in temp @ 125W

If you have plenty of money, then I'd consider that or the Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme, depending on what kind of noise vs heat dispersion you want.

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Does it support x3 channle memory
Does it support 2200 memory

Whats C2 stepping CPU doees it help the cpu and mobo support x3 memory
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Does it support x3 channle memory
Does it support 2200 memory

Whats C2 stepping CPU doees it help the cpu and mobo support x3 memory
AMD platforms do not support triple channel memory.

The IMC (integrated memory controller) on the chip will max out around 1800Mhz (RAM speed for a C3 revision CPU), but will run better at lower speeds and tighter timings.

The C2 and C3 indicates what "revision" the CPU is. C3 is the newer revision, and is the stronger of the two. It has a better IMC and can allow faster RAM speeds.

Marc
Edited by mduclow - 12/28/09 at 4:43pm
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Does it support x3 channle memory
Does it support 2200 memory

Whats C2 stepping CPU does it help the cpu and mobo support x3 memory
AMD does not support tri-channel memory. That is intels "new" thing.

Technically the current AMD processor line up does not "support" anything over 1333, BUT 1600 should be no problem and there has been quite a bit of success @ 1800. Al tho above that has proven to be quite difficult. Now the plus side of getting 2000+ rated memory is that you should be able to tighten the timings down.

C2 is the stepping. The newest is C3 and you can differentiate between the two by the OPN. the C2's will end in BGIBOX while the C3's are BGMBOX. Make sure to get one that is a BGMBOX!

EDIT: marc beat me 2 it.
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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3
MSI 790FX-GD70 Motherboard
G.SKILL Perfect Storm 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133

Just read the above post so the CPU will not support this 2133 then why they make it
They say its for OC but will I have to OC my CPU to achive the abilty to us 2133 mem

OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX30GXXX 2.5" 30GB SATA II MLC

How this sound will the g skill fit in the msi
I plan on putting the order through tommarrow
alos will I have to install the memory one stick per channel

Any other opinons welcome ...
Edited by AndreL - 12/28/09 at 2:31pm
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No need to get 2133 RAM.
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The ram.....not sure if its needed. It will be great if you can hit CAS6@1600 on it or CAS5@1333 or if you want to do a 250+ FSB clock. The ram should be able to do the FSB clock but im not sure about the lower latencies. If i could do it all over i would probably buy 1800 or 2000 ram that can hit CAS5@1333 and could still FSB overclock at those lower latencies.
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