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You have Cool n Quiet on in the bios?

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I've noticed the same behavior. I haven't spotted it at idle.. just while burning with p95. FSB was jumping all over the place. CnQ disabled as well.
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quick question. Why does my clock, nb and ram all change speeds while idling and such. I know they are all linked to the bus speed and I checked amd c&q and it is disabled. what else would cause this?
What monitoring app are you both using and seeing this in?
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Well thats if it actually works like it is supposed to...i knew of ACC before posting and how it works but i have seen little to no results come from its use...other then hoping for failures from a specific core via Prime 95 its like tuning your system blind



Not as of late but it seems like it might actually work...i am just wondering as to how much of a difference it will actually make on the system...where did you pick up on the CPU PLL idea?

I could google it but i am curious as to where you got it from
Well, I reserched it. It does help, It just takes a bit to dial it in. I knew where it was with my PII x4 810 but it's different for this 965BE C3.

Right now I'm not using it. I'm completely stable at:

CPU- 3.8Ghz (200 x19) @ 1.392v (Stock with vdroop)
CPU-NB- 2.6Ghz (200 x13) @ 1.25v
Ram- 1.6Ghz (1:4) CL6-6-6-18-1T @ 2.02v (no DDR-PHY)
HT Link 2Ghz @ 1.2v (Stock)

Will be Keeping those ram speeds and timings and Working on my CPU-NB and then my CPU frequencies... 1.6ghz Ram @ CL6 has a nice sweet spot @ 2.9Ghz+ CPU-NB...

So until I start having issues with stability, I most likely won't use it. It's kind of like the CPU DDR-PHY for the Ram. It's probably better implemented with higher Frequencies.

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well I have other upgrades in mind. GPU and I may go H2O as well.
I hear you there. I want to get another Sapphire VAPOR-X 5770 for CF. They run so cool that it makes sense. PLus, with the way that they scale.... Wow.

I'm gong to get a larger Radiator as well. Mine is single 120mm And I would like to get at least a double. Swiftech Make some really cool Stackable Radiators in double fan size. So you could purchase one, run it for a while and then add a second one behind it with a fans in between and one the back and front. Very cool design.


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I've noticed the same behavior. I haven't spotted it at idle.. just while burning with p95. FSB was jumping all over the place. CnQ disabled as well.
It is partially natural for the Mhz to jump around in between a 1 -2Mhz Window. Anything above and beyond that may be from either having the "Spread Spectrum" option enabled while OCing or because of Major EMI in your local area... Rare but is a possible factor...
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Mhmm everything is running just dandy on my system and i recently finished some 24 hour Linx runs for stability testing...if i get the time or interest i may dive into the PLL/ACC stuff and see what happens

As for water cooling...i have had some second thoughts about selling the loop i bought for my system a week ago (Dtek V2/MCP655/Bix 240 W/ HS Yate loons/EK 100 Res) but after getting it set out in front of me it just seemed like it would over complicate my system you know and the extra work it would require just wasn't worth it for the temps...+ i bought the kit for well under market price and then sold it for an easy XXX$ profit
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Mhmm everything is running just dandy on my system and i recently finished some 24 hour Linx runs for stability testing...if i get the time or interest i may dive into the PLL/ACC stuff and see what happens

As for water cooling...i have had some second thoughts about selling the loop i bought for my system a week ago (Dtek V2/MCP655/Bix 240 W/ HS Yate loons/EK 100 Res) but after getting it set out in front of me it just seemed like it would over complicate my system you know and the extra work it would require just wasn't worth it for the temps...+ i bought the kit for well under market price and then sold it for an easy XXX$ profit
To be honest man, I wouldn't even touch them unless you are having to pump ridiculous volts to become stable OR you want to go higher with your OC and are having a hard time getting there.

What crossed my mind is that maybe ACC was aimed more towards those running LN2, D-ICE or LHe trying for 6.5-7Ghz+... But can also be implemented for everyday high OC's.

IDK.


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OKay this is Kind of off Topic ATM. It was a cold day today. I figured why not try to get the PC outside and do some benches...

Word to the Wise, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT, take your WaterCooled Rig outside when it's 14*F. The Water in my lines became slushy in less than 20-25 Minutes.

I didn't realize it at first. My PC ran fine for the first 10 Minutes. The I started getting blue screens and then the BIOS got all jacked up. it kept shutting off. (My Giagbyte water system has an Overheat Protection temp sensor that shuts the PC down) This has never happened to me before since the temps are always good.

So I said Eff it and brought it back in. I had just the tower rigth outside of my Doorwall with the Wires all leading in and the LCD, keyboard and mouse on a coffee table. I managed to get my 5770 GPU Core up to 1110mhz with the Memory @ 1425-50Mhz. That when things hit the fan.

I didn't realy know what was going on until I brought it in. I opened up the case, set it by the heat register to let it warm up and dry away any condensation from the temp diff and noticed that all of Water lines were hard and cold EXCEPT the Top one leading from the CPU waterblock. It was Very warm. So I didn't have any water flow to cool the CPU. Hence the reboots, blue screens and shut downs.

So if any of you decie to do this be careful please. Maybe I'm just a dip stick or soemthing... LOL
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What monitoring app are you both using and seeing this in?
everest, Cpuz and core temp.

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It is partially natural for the Mhz to jump around in between a 1 -2Mhz Window. Anything above and beyond that may be from either having the "Spread Spectrum" option enabled while OCing or because of Major EMI in your local area... Rare but is a possible factor...
I understand the 1-2mhz jumps but 200mhz jumps is a bit much.

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You have Cool n Quiet on in the bios?
I have it disabled yes as with it enabled it was working. something else to making this happen.

I just reinstalled OS with this board as before I had just installed the hardware and did not reinstall the OS. Did not have this problem before.

Will test some more.
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You have Cool n Quiet on in the bios?
Nope! CnQ disabled.

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What monitoring app are you both using and seeing this in?
I'm using Everest.

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Originally Posted by Mastiffman View Post

It is partially natural for the Mhz to jump around in between a 1 -2Mhz Window. Anything above and beyond that may be from either having the "Spread Spectrum" option enabled while OCing or because of Major EMI in your local area... Rare but is a possible factor...

If it was 1-2Mhz I wouldn't have thought twice about it. The dips were more along the lines of 100-1000Mhz. I've always had Spread Spectrum disabled. I suppose EMI could be the culprit but if it were I would think I'd have this problem constantly and it's not.

Sooo Everest then?
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Nope! CnQ disabled.



I'm using Everest.




If it was 1-2Mhz I wouldn't have thought twice about it. The dips were more along the lines of 100-1000Mhz. I've always had Spread Spectrum disabled. I suppose EMI could be the culprit but if it were I would think I'd have this problem constantly and it's not.

Sooo Everest then?
That is what I am thinking. cpu z and AOD had it reading right and everest was not. Will try the newer everest.
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Nope! CnQ disabled.



I'm using Everest.




If it was 1-2Mhz I wouldn't have thought twice about it. The dips were more along the lines of 100-1000Mhz. I've always had Spread Spectrum disabled. I suppose EMI could be the culprit but if it were I would think I'd have this problem constantly and it's not.

Sooo Everest then?
Okay, sorry. Is it only in Everest? if so, it;s everest. If you compare it to CPU-Z, it won't do that. Everest will do the same thing with mine...
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Is the stock cooler on the 965c3 not up to the task of overclocking?

Mine seems to run really hot, I haven't messed with overclocking too much yet, just got my memory at 1600x8-8-8-24, with cpu 3.7ghz@1.425v and I hit 75c in a few minutes of prime....

Although while gaming it never goes above 60-62, hitting 65c occasionally but never seen it higher..

Going to water cool eventually, just not sure if I want to mod my RBX to fit since I can't afford a new water block right now..

Also I reset my heatsink with AS5 and didn't drop temps much at all, and I'm not 'new' to this...

edit: hell I just droped back down to 3.4ghz and prime95ing at 1.24vcore and I'm hit 55c instantly am up to 59c already!
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