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#1) Not sure as I've only had this board...

#2) Yes, you can use that Ram with this board BUT not at anywhere near those speeds. You can tighten up the timings and Run well @ 1600Mhz -1700Mhz and Higher CPU-NB (IMC- Integrated Memory Controller, If you didn't know)...

NOTE: The 965BE C3 revision CPU will be able to handle all 4 Dimm Slots populated at once! The C2 revision wasn't able to, very well, stably...
Well this board says it can handle 2133+ OC, so why can't I run the RAM at those said speeds? This board is made for Phenoms and other AM3 CPU's. I have the C3 version also so I don't see a problem. Can anyone else please confirm this for me as I do not want to buy 2200mhz RAM and then have a problem running at those speeds. To me it does not make sense to say the board can handle 2133+ OC RAM and then once you get the board and throw your RAM in it will only run at 1600mhz effectively.
    
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Well this board says it can handle 2133+ OC, so why can't I run the RAM at those said speeds? This board is made for Phenoms and other AM3 CPU's. I have the C3 version also so I don't see a problem. Can anyone else please confirm this for me as I do not want to buy 2200mhz RAM and then have a problem running at those speeds. To me it does not make sense to say the board can handle 2133+ OC RAM and then once you get the board and throw your RAM in it will only run at 1600mhz effectively.
The IMC is on the cpu. The board may be able to handle 2133MHz but your cpu cannot. You have the best processor you can get for the board but the maximum ram speed you can get out of it is 1800-1900MHz. A future cpu may be able to handle more so it might not be such a bad idea to buy 2200MHz ram. You should be able to get really tight timings at 1600MHz with that kit which would actually be faster than a higher speed and loose timings.
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Just to make sure i am doing this OC-ing of my new gear in al the right way... And also ofc i i put the right amount of Voltage in the right spots

1)
CPU FSB - for the first few tries i will leave this at 200

CPU Multiplier - I will go up with 0,5 up till i reach a stable OC. (already had gaming session of MW2 of 4 hrs @ 4Ghz.) After i reach teh max stable oc on my CPU i can try to go an and oc other settings.

CPU Voltage - I believe stock mine is 1,4V right ? to oc and get it stable i need to go over 1,45 to see if it will get mopre stable during test.

2) HT i will not touch this and leave it @ 2000

3)
NB this I will leave at speed of 200
NB Mutliplier i will take up 1 at the time. Till i reach stable OC in combination with the highest stable OC on my CPU.
CPU-NB Voltage: i do not know what the stock voltage is so i do not know from what Voltage i start to add. could some 1 help me with this so i can add some voltage to create stable OC.

4) SB i will only take up the Voltage to same as CPU-NB voltage. Although same stiry , do not know stock Voltage.

5) Ram (KHX1600C8D3K2_4GX)
Seen my timings stock are 8-8-8-24 @1600Mhz so devider is set at 1:4 with an Votlage of 1.65V. After this is all blank for me i never oc'd my Ram of tightend the settings.

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Do you need any other info from me to tell me i am on the right track or not ?
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Question: What is the easiest way of removing the heatsink on this board, given that it is mounted in the case. Will I need to remove it from the case? I've never had to remove a NB heatsink before, and even so, the one on this board is nothing like some of the guides I've seen on the internet.
Yes, you would need to remove the board from the case. But, getting the heatsink off is easy.

Once you've got the board out (and removed RAM, HSF, CPU, etc.) you flip it over and there are six screws to remove.



Two under the southbridge...


Two under the mosfets and two under the northbridge...


Once removed, flip the board over again and give the heatsink a little wiggle to loosen the tim and it should come right off...


Now just clean it up like the others recommended (careful of the pads surroundin the tim on the heatsink...I guess they're there for the itty bitty diodes and thingamabobs around the chips) apply your tim of choice (I used Arctic Ceramique), reseat, put back the screws, and mount it up again.

With a fan or two added to the heatsink like this maybe...

...your NB temps should drop by at least 15*C...now that's significant.
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Yes, you would need to remove the board from the case. But, getting the heatsink off is easy.

Thanks Mango!

I had created a thread over at MSI, but it was like pulling teeth!

Check it out

http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=134586.0
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Glad to finally be of some help to someone

Yeah, that was bad...I'd rather a dentist visit
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The IMC is on the cpu. The board may be able to handle 2133MHz but your cpu cannot. You have the best processor you can get for the board but the maximum ram speed you can get out of it is 1800-1900MHz. A future cpu may be able to handle more so it might not be such a bad idea to buy 2200MHz ram. You should be able to get really tight timings at 1600MHz with that kit which would actually be faster than a higher speed and loose timings.
And all the work that goes into making that Stable for one, and worth it for two is totally NOT Worth it..

When I refer to the Phrase "Worth it"... I'm not talking about Running CL 7,8 or 9+. I'm talking about Running CL6-6-6-20-26-1T with a CPU-NB (IMC) of At Least 2.8Ghz or more. Otherwise can get the Same or Better Speed Latency out of 1.6Ghz Ram with CL6 @ 2.8Ghz- 3.0Ghz CPU-NB... it's not that hard to get stable @ 3.8ghz CPU... And technically do we Really need more than that for everyday use? Probably not. But it's fun to try!
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Glad to finally be of some help to someone

Yeah, that was bad...I'd rather a dentist visit
You should make the above a guide.
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How did you notice that there is a voltage drop between idle and load - I mean which software have you used to monitor these values?

BTW! I am not surprised - I don't want to wreck my CPU so you know I try to act very careful.

Well, I think so... Mugen was a wise choice - it's just huge!!!
The maximum load temps were around 40-42 (I've found that sth different was on my mobo display and sth different was in HWMonitor - 42 was on my mobo display - which one was correct - I don't know :/) is it good or bad? Should these temps were lower?
I noticed because I use Everest 5.3 Ultimate and I have checked the voltage points on the board.(link to find them in OP as well as where to download everest.)

Being careful is wise for sure. We spend way too much money on our toys to go crazy... 1.65 not crazy right?

the display is the CPU temp, and your temps are good for sure!

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You should make the above a guide.
It's just been added to the guides section in the OP
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