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Well than act like owner and not *****!!! What's the matter, is your head starting to hurt from thinking????

Anyway, what's point of a thread in forum anyway? To talk and learn! Obviously one can't learn from someone whom is not intelligent enough to discuss something... If you can't comprehind the subject then don't reply.

Don't just reply to "try" and make some feel small... THAT shows just how unintelligent you seem and could very well possibly be! Or would you understand better if I gave you a banana instead....
Mastiffman, We have told you what we think is the problem. We can not make you listen. We are getting no where here, just going around in circles so I am asking you kindly. Please either listen and stop trying to create a Flame-war or start your own thread. If neither of these can be achieved I will have to report this to a moderator for further action.
Edited by eclipseaudio4 - 8/14/09 at 10:34pm
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You all sound like ROBOTS! No offense but if the Scientist of the World were like you everyone that kepps SAYING that it's the IMC on the CPU. We would all still be drving a horse and carage while lighting Laterns at night.....LOL

Show me the documentation that states that "Tha AMD IMC can only run Ram speeds of upto 1700MHz"

That DOESN'T even make sense! If that WAS true, then I wouldn't be able to boot into windows and run my computer while at 1840Mhz....
AMD Stated no where that the max was 1700MHz. I am just stating an average for most Phenom II chips. All IMC's are different, and some are different revisions.

I have worked with professionals who have told me straight up that at around 1600-1700MHz there will be a wall with the IMC. I tested it myself. My ram maxed out at 1672MHz and anymore gave me errors in memtest. However, I too, could boot up to 1824MHz.

Just because you can boot at 1840MHz doesn't mean others can. It depends on how good your IMC, cooling, and ram are, and how you have the ram tuned.

Basically what I'm saying, is that you will not be able to get a STABLE ram clock over 1700MHz unless you tune drive strengths. End of story. Who cares if you can boot at 1800+MHz, if you can't tune the drives, then you will never get it stable
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Slappa,

That is GREAT explaination and very kind of you to explain again. I will take that for an answer! It is definitely more reasonable of an answer than some...

Sorry to Everyone for causing tension. It was very rude of me and I was only trying to get my point accross. Thanks to those whom replied.

I hope that I'm still welcome to post here...

P.S. Drive strengths obviously are to be set higher for possibly more stable Ram clocking? Should I be paying attention to all of them or specific ones? Will it benefit to keep some of them lower? I mean you can't just crank them all up and expect the best can you.... It should only be certain ones?
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Slappa,

That is GREAT explaination and very kind of you to explain again. I will take that for an answer! It is definitely more reasonable of an answer than some...

Sorry to Everyone for causing tension. It was very rude of me and I was only trying to get my point accross. Thanks to those whom replied.

I hope that I'm still welcome to post here...

P.S. Drive strengths obviously are to be set higher for possibly more stable Ram clocking? Should I be paying attention to all of them or specific ones? Will it benefit to keep some of them lower? I mean you can't just crank them all up and expect the best can you.... It should only be certain ones?
I speak only for myself but, of course you are welcome here. The more the merrier.
I know people have bad days which is why I first posted what i did before taking it to the next level. I am just getting fed up with some of the trolls that come here just to start .

BTW go into User CP, on the left side you should see add a system. Do so and then remove your sig. That will put your system info in and make it look like ours.

edit ok where did the go?
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P.S. Drive strengths obviously are to be set higher for possibly more stable Ram clocking? Should I be paying attention to all of them or specific ones? Will it benefit to keep some of them lower? I mean you can't just crank them all up and expect the best can you.... It should only be certain ones?
Drive strength isn't a more is better setting. Certain ic's like high, some med, some low. Other than blind testing all possible settings, try to find out what ic's your ram uses.

A post that may help you a little bit:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...18&postcount=9
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I see lots of very good OC'ers in this thread and was wondering whats the best ram for this board? I game, 107% of my time is spent gaming on my rigs, I want 4 gigs or would more be better? I have some spare cash (sold my xbox360)
keep in mind I wont be OC'ing my ram much, im not very good at OC'ing.

Would like to also try video editing and web development.

Thanks in advance.
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Well, it looks like M-Flash from 1.3 to 1.4 bricked my board. I'm having the same issues as Riskitall8. All the LEDs show good. The Debug LED just shows FF and then nothing. I'm not even getting the led for the case power to light. The internal LED lights. I've tried the recovery method mentioned here:
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=ht...rvice_note#ami

I M-Flashed it using my internal tried and true real floppy drive and this is the result. I've tried to put the BIOS on a floppy and a USB drive and booting the system. Nothing. Just FF and that's it. Capslock and Numlock won't light on the keyboard either. Tried the battery removal for 3 hours and no dice.

This is my wife's computer and since the last one was taken out by a lightning strike a few weeks ago, this is the replacement. Having a rock solid powerful absolutely quite system is my goal.
I got everything last night, put this together for this. Stayed up to 2:00 AM light night loading Windows 7 (from MSDN) on it. Installing all her apps and my business software. The thing was essentially done. Now I've bricked it. I'm NOT impressed!

Anyway, some parts for building this ultra quite PC were:
Antec P182 case.
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I changed out the 140mm fan on the heat sink to a slim Scythe 120mm fan. The holes are the same for it as the 140mm so the mounting clips work the same except it now fits in the case and in between the giant heat sink and Video Card. CPU is running about 112 degrees Fahrenheit and the GPU is running about 40 degrees Celsius. System is pretty much completely noiseless once buttoned up. Thermal characteristics of the Antec P182 case are simply outstanding.

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From what I see, the BIOS is not removable in this motherboard. Am I mistaken or can I just not find it?
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Also, once I get this working again, can a SATA DVD work inthe J-Micron SATA slots? I could not get the BIOS to allow me to boot from it. I was only able to get it to work in one of the six AMD slots.
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From what I see, the BIOS is not removable in this motherboard. Am I mistaken or can I just not find it?
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Also, once I get this working again, can a SATA DVD work inthe J-Micron SATA slots? I could not get the BIOS to allow me to boot from it. I was only able to get it to work in one of the six AMD slots.
Looks as tho you are correct.
Supposedly you can boot bios from a Thumb drive http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=te...&express_no=81

I don't think you can as I believe that the jmicron is just for raid configurations.
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