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Looks as tho you are correct.
Supposedly you can boot bios from a Thumb drive http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=te...&express_no=81

I don't think you can as I believe that the jmicron is just for raid configurations.
From what I understand from reading tonight, it looks like the boot block is messed up. The FF in the diagnostic port shows that the CPU hasn't even completed it's power up, much less initializing it's C states. I'm starting to very much lean towards that this is a brick now.

Reading some of the information on M-Flash, it looks like I can boot from a USB/Floppy to try out the new BIOS first before flashing it. I'll be trying that next time. Maybe it has issues with the newer AMD 955 proc?

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From what I understand from reading tonight, it looks like the boot block is messed up. The FF in the diagnostic port shows that the CPU hasn't even completed it's power up, much less initializing it's C states. I'm starting to very much lean towards that this is a brick now.

Reading some of the information on M-Flash, it looks like I can boot from a USB/Floppy to try out the new BIOS first before flashing it. I'll be trying that next time. Maybe it has issues with the newer AMD 955 proc?
Well I would get on the Phone with MSI's tech support to see what they can do. At least that way if you have to RMA they already have a file on it.

I hope not as I plan to drop a 965 into it.
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Well I would get on the Phone with MSI's tech support to see what they can do. At least that way if you have to RMA they already have a file on it.

I hope not as I plan to drop a 965 into it.
Isn't the 965 just an overclocked version of the 955? Since the 965 consumes 140 wattas and the 955 is 125 watts. Wouldn't it be easier to save $50 and just overclock the 955 by 200 mhz?

Everything that I've read shows that the the diagnostic code FF shows the BIOS is toast. I'll have to RMA it to Newegg. I guess since I've learned about the M-Flash, I'll use it to test a new BIOS first before flashing it. Then using the DOS utility to actually flash it. It's such a shame that MSI doesn't easily provide the tool to do this anymore from their website.
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i had no problem with my 955
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Isn't the 965 just an overclocked version of the 955? Since the 965 consumes 140 wattas and the 955 is 125 watts. Wouldn't it be easier to save $50 and just overclock the 955 by 200 mhz?

Everything that I've read shows that the the diagnostic code FF shows the BIOS is toast. I'll have to RMA it to Newegg. I guess since I've learned about the M-Flash, I'll use it to test a new BIOS first before flashing it. Then using the DOS utility to actually flash it. It's such a shame that MSI doesn't easily provide the tool to do this anymore from their website.
A lot of people think that but are wrong there are differences the IMC(CPU_NB) is different and It takes less voltage to get to 4.0. 4Ghz is also easier to get on air.
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First time poster to this thread and I can't wait to get my GD70 up and running! All I need is memory but I'm still torn between the OCZ AM3 stuff and the rest. Are there any compelling reasons to purchase it? Not really an overclocker but may dabble. Plan is to go 1333 but would appreciate input. I did read through most of this thread's pages so I'm not trying to be lazy. Thanks!
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Isn't the 965 just an overclocked version of the 955? Since the 965 consumes 140 wattas and the 955 is 125 watts. Wouldn't it be easier to save $50 and just overclock the 955 by 200 mhz?

Everything that I've read shows that the the diagnostic code FF shows the BIOS is toast. I'll have to RMA it to Newegg. I guess since I've learned about the M-Flash, I'll use it to test a new BIOS first before flashing it. Then using the DOS utility to actually flash it. It's such a shame that MSI doesn't easily provide the tool to do this anymore from their website.
Mate just RMA the board. M-Flash did that exact thing to mine as you know and nothing could recover the board. MSI support were really useless so just RMA it to the egg and get a new one.
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From what I understand from reading tonight, it looks like the boot block is messed up. The FF in the diagnostic port shows that the CPU hasn't even completed it's power up, much less initializing it's C states. I'm starting to very much lean towards that this is a brick now.

Reading some of the information on M-Flash, it looks like I can boot from a USB/Floppy to try out the new BIOS first before flashing it. I'll be trying that next time. Maybe it has issues with the newer AMD 955 proc?

Use this method:

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Rename the desired AMI BIOS file to AMIBOOT.ROM and save it on a floppy disk. e.g. Rename A569MS23.ROM to AMIBOOT.ROM

Insert this floppy disk in the floppy drive. Turn On the system and press and hold Ctrl-Home to force update. It will read the AMIBOOT.ROM file and recover the BIOS from the A drive.

When 4 beeps are heard you may remove the floppy disk and restart the computer.
quoted from msi user forums

http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?PH...topic=119375.0

This forces a flash of the boot block and recovers the bios. Good luck.

btw It don't think it works with usb floppy. It has to be regular floppy drive.
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Use this method:


quoted from msi user forums

http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?PH...topic=119375.0

This forces a flash of the boot block and recovers the bios. Good luck.

btw It don't think it works with usb floppy. It has to be regular floppy drive.
I tried that too. In the example pictures is shows the BIOS actually doing something. In my board nothing displays. I tried it anyway and nothing. From what I've been reading, the CPU is necessary in order to flash a BIOS. Since the BIOS won't even get the CPU to finish powering up, must less start it's C states, no flashing could be done. I would be nice if the BIOS manufactures bundle a simple old processor powerful enough to flash the bios without having a CPU. I guess this is why some servers have backup BIOS's.
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No this procedure is a blind force flash. All you here are the beeps.

http://www.ami.com/support/doc/AMIBI...e_List_PUB.pdf Section 8.1 are the beeps you may get.

The boot block initializes before the cpu and does not need the cpu to initialize before it forces the flash. Hold the ctrl + home keys on the keyboard before you hit the power switch. Attach a case speaker if you don't already have one so you're not completely blind and you may be able to figure out where it's failing.
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