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try the 955 out yet?
Yep!!! Those are the settings for it above!

It does require quite a bit less volts! I can even run my ram at lower volts...

So Before I needed

1.47v for the CPU @ 4Ghz
1.46v for the CPU-Nb @ 3Ghz
2.08v for the Ram

And this was only stable for about 45-65minutes

Now I only need

1.44v
1.38v
2.02v

And I'm stable for well over 3 hours I needed 1.48 in the BIOS for 4.2 for the 965 C3 and this one only needed.......... 1.44v



The difference in the Die Cut is only about 111 so I'm not expecting a huge difference... If I could find a 955 below 90100 I think that i would be satified! I might try returning this and going to a less well know place to see if I can get a lower Cut...
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nice improvement...I like the 955's better.
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my PC is still hyper transport F**king me and im about to hyper transport blow its brains out...


Regardless.... do you guys run your ram in ganged or unganged!?

with the new bios my ram seems to be running pretty good with everything set on Auto. It went to factory timings but only went to 1333 instead of the 1600 its says it is. I set it in ganged mode at 1T... I dont know what any of it means so I thought I wouls ask.
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my PC is still hyper transport F**king me and im about to hyper transport blow its brains out...


Regardless.... do you guys run your ram in ganged or unganged!?

with the new bios my ram seems to be running pretty good with everything set on Auto. It went to factory timings but only went to 1333 instead of the 1600 its says it is. I set it in ganged mode at 1T... I dont know what any of it means so I thought I wouls ask.
I'm not in the MSI 790FX-GD70 club but I run my ram unganged. Essentially, unganged and ganged are single and dual channel, respectively. Unganged is supposed to be faster if you have a quadcore as it allows individual cores to access individual memory modules. I've never tested the performance between the two so I can't tell you if there's any truth to it.

Have a look at this thread if you want to know more:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-memory/...nged-mode.html
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currently gathering info and screenshots, still haven't got around this freeze issue. I am bout to RMA this ram and buy the same ram Mastiff or you guys use to match the settings this ripjaw ram is driving me nuts. Should have details in about an hour or less posted
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I'm not in the MSI 790FX-GD70 club but I run my ram unganged. Essentially, unganged and ganged are single and dual channel, respectively. Unganged is supposed to be faster if you have a quadcore as it allows individual cores to access individual memory modules. I've never tested the performance between the two so I can't tell you if there's any truth to it.

Have a look at this thread if you want to know more:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-memory/...nged-mode.html
So in theory is ganged more stable? im trying to eliminate any possible reasons for why my pc is crashing.
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The below was based on information given to me in a private message (*Mastiff).

When I first Boot up I see the processor
on the black screen and right now its set
to DDR3 1600 Unganged Mode 64.

Then in the 1.6 version of the bios I go to menu option
Cell Menu
Then I set the
HT Link Voltage (V) to 1.250
NB Voltage (V) to 1.250
DRAM Voltage (V) to 1.65
CPU-NB VDD Voltage to 1.250

Says Current CPU Frequence 3.4GHz (200x17)
Curent DRAM Frequency 1600 MHz

I am using 32bit win 7 home now but i have the 64bit Win 7 upgrade CD i would like to get installed

All the other settings are at default outside of memory configurations.

Under the menu FSB/DRAM Ratio this is where i have been putting 1:4 or 1:3.33 for troubleshooting
Under Memory Z - DIMM1 and DIMM2 slots shows Max-Badwidth as DDR3-1332 (666Mhz) hmmmmm???? Under X.M.P Support info
it shows DDR3-1600 (800Mhz) grayed out and Mem Voltage at 1.50V

In Advanced DRAM Configuration Menu I enabled DCT Unganged Mode from Disabled the huge menu came up changed
DRAM Timing Mode to both
Set CAS Latency (CL) to [8 CLK]
Set tRCD to [8 CLK]
Set tRP to [8 CLK]
Set tRAS to [24 CLK]
Set tRC to [32 CLK]

Saved, and the result is still when i get into Windows Desktop less then 5-10 minutes full lockup can't move the mouse.

Tried the same thing but with the 1:3:33 setting instead of Auto 1333 with the same timings as above and once with automatic
both results = lockup in Windows (with DRAM Timing mode both and once on Auto)

Tried the all the above settings with a 32 and 64 from the Advanced BIOS Features PCI 64 and 32. My vid card is not overclocked
and i do have up to date drivers for it installed on the OS.

When i say Defaults i have been using the F8 Fail-Safe Defaults and not F6 Optimized Defaults


Did attempt to change modules over to the blue slots as well no change still freezes.

Possibly we could maximize settings of the memory and I could attempt to install the Win 7 64 bit pro upgrade, maybe it's more stable it for sure will use all the ram instead of the 3 and quarter 32bit does. This all started because i could not get the OS installed in the first place on the 32bit because of the "freezing"

Here is the link to bios 1.6 settings I played with as directed, possibly you all see something I am missing. Ill try anything, if you think I am just spinning my wheels then let me RMA the ram and match up to one of the senior guys ram with bios settings that work !































side note: this is pure "Pandemonium" i was shooting for drop and go! lol


note: here is what the clocks are at default

http://xs.to/share-0ED7_4B626E22.html"><img src="http://xs.to/image-0ED7_4B626E22.jpg


Here is the RAM = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231277
Edited by djspock3030 - 1/28/10 at 9:28pm
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nice improvement...I like the 955's better.
Yes, I like it more so far! I just hope that it stays this way and doens't degrade at all... I'm not going to be using anything better than water...

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Originally Posted by Chopxsticks View Post
my PC is still hyper transport F**king me and im about to hyper transport blow its brains out...

Regardless.... do you guys run your ram in ganged or unganged!?

with the new bios my ram seems to be running pretty good with everything set on Auto. It went to factory timings but only went to 1333 instead of the 1600 its says it is. I set it in ganged mode at 1T... I dont know what any of it means so I thought I wouls ask.
Remember that the HTSF Error is due to not enough volts. Typically for the CPU or CPU-NB itself! Howe long is it taking in the OS before you get this error?

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Originally Posted by Frosty88 View Post
I'm not in the MSI 790FX-GD70 club but I run my ram unganged. Essentially, unganged and ganged are single and dual channel, respectively. Unganged is supposed to be faster if you have a quadcore as it allows individual cores to access individual memory modules. I've never tested the performance between the two so I can't tell you if there's any truth to it.

Have a look at this thread if you want to know more:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-memory/...nged-mode.html
No offense but your statement above is incorrect... these are dual channel systems and Connot be switched between Dual and Single Channel Mode Unless you physicaly put them in single channel config on the motherboard.

Ganged is more for Single THREAD apps needing more bandwidth being that Ganged allows both Memory domains to be seen as one 128bit interface. Unganged is better for Multitasking on an enthusiasts level (i.e. Needing the power for MULTIPLE Threads...)

The Only reason that the Everest Benchmarks are better in ganged is because Everest and it's Benchmarks are a single threaded app...

This paragraph Explains it... Quoted by "M_S" over at lostcircuits.com

Quote:
If you are running in ganged mode, you are just combining the two channels and there is no arbitration between them. In unganged mode, you split the memory space over two separate domains. That means that each controller can independently access each part of the memory space (unlike the ganged mode where fixed channels are assigned or, in the case of AMD, they are doing byte-interleaving).

In order for this to work, the controller has to know what part of the physical memory space is available (i.e. not being used by the other controller) and the CPU cores have to know if one controller is already active in a given part of the memory space, so then it would wait for it to complete the task and queue up a request for the next set of data instead of relinquishing that part of the memory space by the first controller and then hitting it with the second controller. The physical lines are always the same, which is why the controllers cannot hit the same memory at the same time.
Just want to make sure that we're offering the correct info...

DJSPOCK3030,

Two things....

1. Sorry bud, I may not have been clear, but you need to change the CPU-NB Voltage NOT the "CPU-NB VDD Voltage" Try Setting the VDD Voltage for the CPU-NB back to "Auto" and then change the CPU-NB Voltage to 1.25v-1.30V (Stock voltage fro the PhenomII CPU-NB is 1.15-1.3v so you're inthe safe zone)

2. You stated this, which I din't know... I thought that you had the Full or OEM disk...
Quote:
I am using 32bit win 7 home now but i have the 64bit Win 7 upgrade CD i would like to get installed
Quite a few of the Upgrade Disks were having this issue, so you may just have a poopy Win7 Upgrade disk. It was all over the internet when the upgrade disks were released...

Just a thought!?
Edited by Mastiffman - 1/28/10 at 9:32pm
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I have OFFICIALLY started my first OC as of an hour ago. Dropped timings on my RAM to 7-7-7-21-28-1T, now running some tests.

Side Note: You guys sold me on the SSD idea. I ordered two Vertex drives and should have them mid week.
    
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Remember that the HTSF Error is due to not enough volts. Typically for the CPU or CPU-NB itself! Howe long is it taking in the OS before you get this error?

I only get these errors while playing games...

So for the last week and a half I have been rendering video for a project, no problems what so ever. Play Torchlight, which has been called one of the best games for a netbook, and I will go anywhere from 10min to 2 hours before a crash. Its either a HTSF error or my graphic card errors and recovers.

Im currently running Memtest84 v4.00 the linux version that boots from CD, my RAM is at 666 MHZ (DDR1333) / CAS 9-9-9-24 beens an hour and 5 min no errors... (rams also ganged)

Thank you Mastiff for your Wisdom and patience
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