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Ghost,

Marc has given some great advice! I myself, have even replaced the TIM on my NB/MOSFET/SB Chipset Heat Sink and Had, what I consider, great improvement. I was maxing out at idle, around 46*C and 51-52*C on load.

I simply popped off the Heat Sink by removing the 6 Screws from the Bottom of the Board, removed the old Factory TIM and applied a little of AS5.

My Idle Temps went down to 39*C and Load only maxes out at 41*C! At the Same settings. Then only thing that has Change was my CPU-NB Voltage. It's @ 1.41v instead of 1.48v. but that's not going to affect the NB CHipset temps being that it's on the Board. All of the frequencies are the same as well as the NB Chipset voltage being the same...

So it's Definitely Worth it!


EDIT:

Okay, this Stuff FINALLY got here on the 7the Busines day! DON'T EVER get Free 4-7 day delievery.... It was 9 Days including the Weekend!?

So I'm going to replce the AS5 I have on my CPU and NB/MOSFET/SB Heatsink, today... We'll see where it stands. The heat transfer Capabilities for the tx-3 ARE MORE EFFICIENT THAT as5....


P.S. I have found that 1.8 Official and 1.91beta both do not play well with AOD... Maybe it was just my Install though...
ok i have got more thermal paste and have redone the cpu, seems to be helping a bit more, sits around 35c and upto 55c max, but my 790fx NB temp is still a bit high, how do i go about reappling thermal paste to the NB and SB chips? do i need to clean off the thermal pads or just leave them attached??
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Damn aqua...im sure those three 4870's have to play a part on it somehow but thats just bad
Yeah, going to be putting AC coolers on them both and moving my CPU to water. Just love all the features of this board, except how hot it is!

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Ouch!

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Never had/heard of a NB getting this dang hot! Think it could be a faulty sensor? I mean, would it even function at 98C?
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ok i have got more thermal paste and have redone the cpu, seems to be helping a bit more, sits around 35c and upto 55c max, but my 790fx NB temp is still a bit high, how do i go about reappling thermal paste to the NB and SB chips? do i need to clean off the thermal pads or just leave them attached??
You need to clean it all off. Squeaky clean. It's not the easiest thing to do, but only took me about 10-15 mins for the whole thing, chips and heatsink.

I used my thumb, pressing pretty hard, to 'slide/push' the goo off. When I got it all off, I used some alcohol wipes for a final "rinsing".

Make sure the NB part is making good contact, check it before applying the TIM if you think you should.

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Never had/heard of a NB getting this dang hot! Think it could be a faulty sensor? I mean, would it even function at 98C?
If you want to question the sensor then just touch your NB...mine was pretty hot when i was hitting as high as 60C so it should be really hot to the touch

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You need to clean it all off. Squeaky clean. It's not the easiest thing to do, but only took me about 10-15 mins for the whole thing, chips and heatsink.

I used my thumb, pressing pretty hard, to 'slide/push' the goo off. When I got it all off, I used some alcohol wipes for a final "rinsing".

Make sure the NB part is making good contact, check it before applying the TIM if you think you should.

Marc
Thats pretty much it people...boy was that pink crap hard to get off...like bubble gum

I used a Q-tip with alcohol on it and that helped a lot...pretty sure i used too much TIM on the reseat though

And BTW thanks for the "complements" on my avatars



@ Everyone

This responding with the @ symbol is useful

Anyways...i am wondering if anyone has ran into problems trying to use Green Power applications?

At first when i tried using it my rig would always reset when i selected to have it optimize or clicked on certain options....now it just starts up with a windows error of Greenpower has stopped responding
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If you want to question the sensor then just touch your NB...mine was pretty hot when i was hitting as high as 60C so it should be really hot to the touch
Yes but do I really want to go about touching things that could potentially be 200F?
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Yes but do I really want to go about touching things that could potentially be 200F?
Thats the chip itself the HS should not burn you. If it was capable of that it would have already fried.
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So, here's an example of what I was talking about with IntelBurn. I was raising my Mem speed, and the GFlops should have been around 43, it came up 37, 38, 37 on the first three. It didn't fail (although it probably would have), but I knew it was not right, so I shut it down, back to the bios, and bumped the voltage one notch. Now it's running 43~, where I was expecting it. So I'll let this one run, and then continue to up the speed.

Saved me some time though, which is the point. I hate spending half a day testing and re-testing etc...

If I'm not boring all of you, I'll keep posting results as I figure out how to shortcut this process.

Marc

EDIT: BTW, I'm also noticing that Everest will jump the fsb around if my voltages are a bit low. Sometimes it will pass tests, but if I increase the voltage, it either stops doing it all together, or does it minimally. I've seen it go as low as 75 Mhz on the fsb with a too low voltage (that one did fail the testing). So, it seems to me to be another way to quick tell if I'm a bit low on the volts, without spending the time to run a test.
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So, here's an example of what I was talking about with IntelBurn. I was raising my Mem speed, and the GFlops should have been around 43, it came up 37, 38, 37 on the first three. It didn't fail (although it probably would have), but I knew it was not right, so I shut it down, back to the bios, and bumped the voltage one notch. Now it's running 43~, where I was expecting it. So I'll let this one run, and then continue to up the speed.

Saved me some time though, which is the point. I hate spending half a day testing and re-testing etc...

If I'm not boring all of you, I'll keep posting results as I figure out how to shortcut this process.

Marc


EDIT: BTW, I'm also noticing that Everest will jump the fsb around if my voltages are a bit low. Sometimes it will pass tests, but if I increase the voltage, it either stops doing it all together, or does it minimally. I've seen it go as low as 75 Mhz on the fsb with a too low voltage (that one did fail the testing). So, it seems to me to be another way to quick tell if I'm a bit low on the volts, without spending the time to run a test.
No no no! Keep the info Coming! You know me I love to hear about the testing results and New Discoveries! nice work! +rep Brother!

EDIT: @ Marc

Do you just test with Standard Stress Level and Auto Threads?

EDIT 2:

This was my result on a 5 Pass run with standard stress and Auto Threading...

Edited by Mastiffman - 1/29/10 at 5:56pm
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EDIT: BTW, I'm also noticing that Everest will jump the fsb around if my voltages are a bit low. Sometimes it will pass tests, but if I increase the voltage, it either stops doing it all together, or does it minimally. I've seen it go as low as 75 Mhz on the fsb with a too low voltage (that one did fail the testing). So, it seems to me to be another way to quick tell if I'm a bit low on the volts, without spending the time to run a test.
Just a quick poke here as i haven't been thoroughly reading your work with IBT and i can't comment on that as of yet but i can mention something about everest

Everest ALWAYS jumps around on me...my HT clock/Core clock/NB clock/ram clock

I know i am 12+ hours stable on my current clocking so umm yeah
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Just a quick poke here as i haven't been thoroughly reading your work with IBT and i can't comment on that as of yet but i can mention something about everest

Everest ALWAYS jumps around on me...my HT clock/Core clock/NB clock/ram clock

I know i am 12+ hours stable on my current clocking so umm yeah
It will with me too. But, as soon as I up the volts, it stops doing it, or is minimized a lot, like only a few Mhz change. And it seems to just be the reference clock (fsb), so all of them reflect the change being that they are all a multiple of that.

The last IBT run, that started at 37, 38, 37 and I bumped the volts one notch, then it was 43~, the first runs Everest was jumping around a lot, the second, not once over almost 15 mins (or maybe just a couple of Mhz that I didn't notice then, I've only just started seeing a 'relationship', if there really is one). I tend to doubt coincidences.

I need to do more testing to see if there really is a direct relationship with this, but it's caught my eye for now.

If you can, for fun, try upping your voltage one or two notches (on all things you've increased, NB, CPU, RAM), and see if the Everest thing is less, or not doing it at all any more. It'd be interesting to see if it does in fact help you out in that regard.

And, for me, leave that Avatar up for awhile, please!

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@ Marc

Do you just test with Standard Stress Level and Auto Threads?
No, use the highest you can, high for 4GB ram, and very high for 8GB of ram. That's what I use, high and auto threads.

Run 10 for a quick test, and 25 for a full test. Again, 25 has never crashed on me, even gaming with Crysis Warhead and gpu overclocks.

Marc
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