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This is the result a lot of people get if they have ACC enabled (even on other boards). Check it.

@ Gsk3rd -- first mention of a board version other than 1.0, I wonder if there is any difference in them, must be right? But what?

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hmm only things enabled in bios which i have check on and off, is the phase power settings and Q&C. none of the overclocked settings are on. I did notice during the 1.0 to 1.6 bios somewhere, if i had phase power on auto it would show this, now it does it even when its off??
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ok i just cold booted @-2c and it booted straight into windows no probs i also checked nb temps and this time they where @30c by the time i was in windows so i dont think nb temps have anything to do with it, but maybe cpu temps do. right the next step is to try booting above 0c, will apdate soon.

Remember, CPU-NB which is the Speed 2800Mhz that we speak of is on the CPU itself. the NB "Chipset" is only Motherboard...

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Ok guys I have found something else that is kinda interesting and I am wondering if it is the case for anyone else or if it is something I should have known already.

I have been fine tuning my voltages(from 1.54vcore to 1.52 and 1.35cpu-NB to 1.34 so far) and each time I step down in voltage I get a slight increase in GFlops with intel burn. So is this normal or might it be something interesting?
Burn in time.... She's loosening up. I think that it's more related to lower volts = Lower heat = better performance if within the required minimum voltage range...

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Im stunting a 1.0 board, with 1.8 bios, 4.040ghz (1.475vcore), 2828nb, (1.24v) and 202fsb. Boots perfect everytime on air.
Are you turning her all othe way and letting it sit for aminute before trying to boot @ 2828Mhz CPU-NB or just simply "rebooting"?

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hmm only things enabled in bios which i have check on and off, is the phase power settings and Q&C. none of the overclocked settings are on. I did notice during the 1.0 to 1.6 bios somewhere, if i had phase power on auto it would show this, now it does it even when its off??
I have noticed that IF you turnacc on with using the CPU Unlock feature (EC Formware on older BIOS) I have to hit the reset button when it hangs and THEN it goes right into the OS...
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Are you turning her all othe way and letting it sit for aminute before trying to boot @ 2828Mhz CPU-NB or just simply "rebooting"?
I turn my computer off everytime I'm done using it for awhile. So, I boot from scratch everytime. Im at 204x20 for 4080mhz, and 2856nb. Im about to play some crysis warhead to test it.
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mastiffman; yeah i know the cpu/nb is on the processor i was just trying to think outside of the box, trying to figure out what other factors might cause it, but im still non the wiser

swishamane: if you can cold boot @ those settings then you got one hell of a chip, i'm running 1.32v through my cpu/nb to get it stable @2800 but im also running the cpu @4.7 so some of that added voltage was to help stabilize my cpu clock, but still your volts @ those speeds are pretty impressive.
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mastiffman; yeah i know the cpu/nb is on the processor i was just trying to think outside of the box, trying to figure out what other factors might cause it, but im still non the wiser

swishamane: if you can cold boot @ those settings then you got one hell of a chip, i'm running 1.32v through my cpu/nb to get it stable @2800 but im also running the cpu @4.7 so some of that added voltage was to help stabilize my cpu clock, but still your volts @ those speeds are pretty impressive.
Understandable. Wanted to make sure.... I just alomst sounded like you were making them one in the same or related... Sorry about that...

One thing that I realized about BIOS 1.51b is that when you set the HT Link Speed multi to auto, it gets set to whatever the CPU-NB multi is set to... but when I set my CPUNB to x15 for 3Ghz and my HTLink to Auto it showed 3ghz as well in the BIOS but in CPUZ it showed as 200.... (Not 2000)

Weird...


EDIT 1:

Okay gentlemen..... These are my findings...

Note: (Just we're all on the same page here... Using the term cold boot I'm referring to shutting the PC Down, Flipping the PSU switch to off and Draining the caps by holding the power button for 2+minutes)

-Board revision: MS-7577REV 1.0
-CPU revision: 955 C3

I'm running BIOS 1.84beta right now and @ CPUNB Multi set to "x14" for 2800Mhz I cannot cold boot no matter what I do. CPUNB multi @ "x13" for 2600Mhz I'm good as most of us are!

BUT, I starting thinking about the fact that I can "cold boot" @ 2800 (x14) on this board with BIOS 1.51b... What I did was change the CPUNB multi down to "x13", then first bump the HT ref Clk to 215 for a CPUNB freq of 2795Mhz, booted into the OS, shut her down....... She cold Booted fine, right into the OS... So I push HTRClk to 218 x13 for CPUNB of 2834MHz and warm rebooted into the OS to make sure that it was good to roll with programs and booting. Sure enough, I shut her down and waited.....

She cold booted fine @ 2834Mhz... It has to be something with the Multiplier on CPUNB. Now I'm sure that it's related to the BIOS, which is my first and most powerful thought being that I can use the "x14" multi for the CPUNB with a cold boot fine... There is no other explaination for it. There is no real pattern with anything else EXCEPT this one thing... Which in my opinion has to be the issue...

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AGESA is a bootstrap protocol by which system devices on AMD64-architecture mainboards are initialized. The AGESA software in the BIOS of such mainboards is responsible for the initialization of the processor cores, memory, and the HyperTransport controller
So that being said, if you go to the MSI website and look at the changes done to the BIOS, AGESA was FIRST changed in the OFFICIAL BIOS 1.5. BUT then it was Change again STARTING @ 1.6, then 1.7 and 1.8 as well. So IMO there has to be some sort of Difference in the Coding of the Generic Encapsulated Software called AGESA....

EDIT 2:
Okay, good NEWS!

I set my HTRClk to 231Mhz Which gives me:

CPU- 3811Mhz @ 1.42v (BIOS)
CPUNB- 3003Mhz @ 1.38v (BIOS)
Ram- 1540Mhz CL6-6-6-18-24-1T @ 2.02v
HT Link- 2079Mhz (Stock v's)

And to let you all know.... She does "cold boot" @ 3003Mhz CPUNB.... So it may not enable the use of the multi @ higher than "x13" on a cold boot but Hey, at least it can cold boot @ over 3ghz CPUNB!

Hope this helped!
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no props marc i wasnt offended or anything, i just reread the post and it did come across as if i was defending myself, soz for any misunderstanding,

nice work on the cold boot issue m8, i will give it a go myself tonight when i get home from work as im going to be doing some fsb clocking anyway,
what did you have your nb volts @ and also when i tryed clocking from 4.6 to 4.7 i got a hyper transport flood sync error but adding a bit more cpu/nb voltage cured that but it was still not stable enough to bench, so is there any other voltages that might help as upping the cpu/nb volts more is just going to dumb to much heat into the cpu, cheers
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no props marc i wasnt offended or anything, i just reread the post and it did come across as if i was defending myself, soz for any misunderstanding,

nice work on the cold boot issue m8, i will give it a go myself tonight when i get home from work as im going to be doing some fsb clocking anyway,
what did you have your nb volts @ and also when i tryed clocking from 4.6 to 4.7 i got a hyper transport flood sync error but adding a bit more cpu/nb voltage cured that but it was still not stable enough to bench, so is there any other voltages that might help as upping the cpu/nb volts more is just going to dumb to much heat into the cpu, cheers
Thanks. I have the volts for the CPUNB set to the same as before with the 3Ghz
1.39v (BIOS) shows as 1.40-1.41 @ idle in Everest ultimate and 1.42 @ Load in Everest... I have 1.4v going to the CPU Core for 3.811Ghz (231 x16.5) and it's been fine in Smalll FFT's mode in P95. I'm let that go until mid day today, maybe less, then try Blend.

I'm almost positive this thing could "cold Boot" even higher than 3003Mhz that it's at now! I don't think that I'm going to leave my HTRClk @ 200mhz anymore. I've been wanting to take my Ram higher than 1600Mhz @ CL6 for some time... So this event will most likely aid in that.

Yeah I found that the HTSF Error is due to lack of volts to the CPU. Whther it be the core or CPUNB Core volts... Being that the Dram voltage on this board acts as an Auxilary (backup) voltage for the CPUNB, you might want to bump the Dram volts a bit to aid in stability of the IMC...

Is the CPU passing Prime95 in SmallFFT's Mode and it's Just failing in Blend?

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Question,all users who have the new 955 c3,how would you rate the cpu,as i am thinking of getting one myself,is it worth it,as i was also thinking about another 965 c3 hoping i might get lucky and get one with a newer batch code,the one i a have now is a 0942,your thoughts please,anyone,???

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Some have gotten even better runs with the 955 than the 965...so I would probably look at the 955, knowing that u are getting a slightly lower numbered processor and if it clocks well then thats a bonus..but I dont know if your planning to go out and get a "golden one" you might be disappointed.

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Am getting 30-40 degrees on the NB using cpu hardware info and around 70 degrees using everest...which one should I trust?
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Not looking for the golden goose,lol!!!!,just a better binned one.

Iwould say everest gives the more accurate readings,so your NB temp seems on the high side,heres a screen of mine.

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