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LOL, yeah they are nice sticks, need to grab 2 more but Newegg is out till 2/16 last time I checked the other day. I had my board at 285Mhz FSB with these sticks. I just got done installing windows 7 ultimate yesterday in hopes of fixing my instability issues. For some reason I could not run anything on my OC within Vista home premium. I think it was from changing of GFX cards, went from Nvidia to ATI. After the change I was having all sorts of crashes and whatnot. 7 is treating me nice so far. Since I formatted and installed 7 I decided to flash my BIOS also and went from 1.6 to 1.9 as I do not like trying beta anything except for somethings I really want to try. So I should start my OC'ing journey again over the long 3 day weekend. Got to love those paid hollidays! So I should have some decent OC's for you all. Gonna try for 300+ on the FSB *crossing fingers*
I got mine running @ 345HT Ref with a x11.5 multi with my NB-CPU @ 2752mhz. I'm currently using 1.42V for my NB voltage and 1.40 for my NB-CPU.

I noticed that there is not much of a difference with using stock HT ref with increased multis for benchmarks, but my system is more stable when I get the CPU around 4.0ghz speeds while using less voltage. I have a 955 C2 from Newegg (bought August 2009) and am using the 1.9 official BIOS.
    
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yeah i no i forgot to change it to memory , as for timings they would of been 9, 11, 11, 30, as apposed to 9, 9 , 9, 25 because they were @800mhz not 780mhz so bios auto loosens them, but it would of only gained me an extra 20-30 points maybe.


So you don't think that the combination of:

1.) Higher CPU Frequency (12Mhz is still higher)
2.) Higher CPU Voltage (May actually have been more stable at higher volts)
3.) Higher HT Link Frequency (opens up more bandwidth room w/ higher OC's)
4.) Higher CPUNB Frequency (8Mhz in still higher)
5.) Higher CPUNB Voltage (Could have made a more stable OC on the CPUNB)
6.) Tighter Ram Timings (Although lower Freq.)

Could have had an affect on the overall system performance?

I know for a fact that your processor IS NOT stable @ 4.2Ghz with only Stock Volts! Go back and Raise the volts on Both the Stock HTRClk OC and the CPUNB a bit an then rerun...

Friendly F.Y.I.
Front Side Bus on older systems is different that Hypertransport systems...
HT Link is more comparable to the old FSB. Because the HT Link is what everything is connected through...

Reason being is this. The Front Side Bus was the actual connection between the CPU, the Northbridge MCH (memory controller hub), as well as basically Southbridge and the rest of the PCI. Now the Hypertransport is the Connection between the CPU and the rest of the system, even between the cores on the CPU.

Look at the pic below and look at the differnce of a real FSB system. If you notice in between the CPU and the Northbridge "Memory Controller Hub" (Instead of the IMC- Integrated Memory Controller) they call the connection Front Side Bus......



The FSB was replaced by the Hypertransport technology back in 2001 IIRC. That's the main reason why systems can carry so much more bandwidth these days and hence the reason why OCing the HT Link can increase system Speed as well. If you are increasing everything else, why shouldn't you increase the Data path that it travels?

All of this is Why Intel move to Hypertransport Technology... Because its faster! Up until the release of the "i" Processors, the used FSB. now they're using HyperTransport.

But, they call it "Quick Path Interconnect" (QPI)
Edited by Mastiffman - 2/12/10 at 4:23pm
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Well this is what i get in 3dmark 06,3 x 4890's,cpu multi oc.


Here's a vantage score for compare,
very nice!
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not a bad score there moorhen2, you should be able to get a bit higher than that with your 3x 4790's as im getting,



granted im running my 965 @4.7 but im only sporting a 4870x2 @800, 1000.
try getting your northbridge and ht up and maybe do a fsb oc and you should hit over 25k easy.
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I have been very happy with my G.Skill ram. I have been running them at 1624Mhz CL7 1.45V DRAM for over a week now and haven't had any problems. I'm sure I could do better if I ever got around to it.
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Really, nice! 1.45v? That B.A. Barracus!!!!! (The A team ) What model do you have?
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So you don't think that the combination of:

1.) Higher CPU Frequency (12Mhz is still higher)
2.) Higher CPU Voltage (May actually have been more stable at higher volts)
3.) Higher HT Link Frequency (opens up more bandwidth room w/ higher OC's)
4.) Higher CPUNB Frequency (8Mhz in still higher)
5.) Higher CPUNB Voltage (Could have made a more stable OC on the CPUNB)
6.) Tighter Ram Timings (Although lower Freq.)

Could have had an affect on the overall system performance?

I know for a fact that your processor IS NOT stable @ 4.2Ghz with only Stock Volts! Go back and Raise the volts on Both the Stock HTRClk OC and the CPUNB a bit an then rerun...

Friendly F.Y.I.
Front Side Bus on older systems is different that Hypertransport systems...
HT Link is more comparable to the old FSB. Because the HT Link is what everything is connected through...

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Look at the pic below and look at the differnce of a real FSB system. If you notice in between the CPU and the Northbridge "Memory Controller Hub" (Instead of the IMC- Integrated Memory Controller) they call the connection Front Side Bus......



The FSB was replaced by the Hypertransport technology back in 2001 IIRC. That's the main reason why systems can carry so much more bandwidth these days and hence the reason why OCing the HT Link can increase system Speed as well. If you are increasing everything else, why shouldn't you increase the Data path that it travels?

All of this is Why Intel move to Hypertransport Technology... Because its faster! Up until the release of the "i" Processors, the used FSB. now they're using HyperTransport.

But, they call it "Quick Path Interconnect" (QPI)
I've been a bit confused by the HT link, many people say it's best left near stock speeds (2000mhz), as when you OC it higher, it actually brings down system performance. I've left mine at 2752mhz, as I haven't seen any differences. What is your thoughts on this?
    
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So you don't think that the combination of:

1.) Higher CPU Frequency (12Mhz is still higher)
2.) Higher CPU Voltage (May actually have been more stable at higher volts)
3.) Higher HT Link Frequency (opens up more bandwidth room w/ higher OC's)
4.) Higher CPUNB Frequency (8Mhz in still higher)
5.) Higher CPUNB Voltage (Could have made a more stable OC on the CPUNB)
6.) Tighter Ram Timings (Although lower Freq.)

Could have had an affect on the overall system performance?

I know for a fact that your processor IS NOT stable @ 4.2Ghz with only Stock Volts! Go back and Raise the volts on Both the Stock HTRClk OC and the CPUNB a bit an then rerun...

Friendly F.Y.I.
Front Side Bus on older systems is different that Hypertransport systems...
HT Link is more comparable to the old FSB. Because the HT Link is what everything is connected through...

Reason being is this. The Front Side Bus was the actual connection between the CPU, the Northbridge MCH (memory controller hub), as well as basically Southbridge and the rest of the PCI. Now the Hypertransport is the Connection between the CPU and the rest of the system, even between the cores on the CPU.

Look at the pic below and look at the differnce of a real FSB system. If you notice in between the CPU and the Northbridge "Memory Controller Hub" (Instead of the IMC- Integrated Memory Controller) they call the connection Front Side Bus......



The FSB was replaced by the Hypertransport technology back in 2001 IIRC. That's the main reason why systems can carry so much more bandwidth these days and hence the reason why OCing the HT Link can increase system Speed as well. If you are increasing everything else, why shouldn't you increase the Data path that it travels?
mastiff you are correct to some extent but the difference between the ht, timings would have made very minimal affect regarding points,
and yes @4.2 with stock volts it was stable, the reason why the volts in the second screen shot where @1.52 was because my 24/7 oc is 4.7 @1.52 and i just left the volts @ that when i was trying fsb clocking and as for the cpu/nb volts they were the same for both oc's, remember im running phase so i can clock higher with less volts,
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Really, nice! 1.45v? That B.A. Barracus!!!!! (The A team ) What model do you have?
These http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-321-_-Product
1.35V stock. I got them for $110CAD a month ago. It seems like they have gone up in price.
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what voltage you guys using to get 2800mhz NB? using 1.4v for 2600mhz atm.
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These http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-321-_-Product
1.35V stock. I got them for $110CAD a month ago. It seems like they have gone up in price.
AH!!!! Gotcha! So you're still running them above stock.. Cool. Still very nice!

You know what I've noticed about the ones that others seemed to be having issues with compared to yours.... The say "High Density" in the discription... just brain storming here now. I wonder if that is what's causing the issue... Higher than normaly Dram density can cause a system to Not POST....

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what voltage you guys using to get 2800mhz NB? using 1.4v for 2600mhz atm.
For a C2 that sounds about right.... Maybe a little less if you can get away with it...

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mastiff you are correct to some extent but the difference between the ht, timings would have made very minimal affect regarding points,
and yes @4.2 with stock volts it was stable, the reason why the volts in the second screen shot where @1.52 was because my 24/7 oc is 4.7 @1.52 and i just left the volts @ that when i was trying fsb clocking and as for the cpu/nb volts they were the same for both oc's, remember im running phase so i can clock higher with less volts.
Well it doesn't make any other sense to me being that it's only a "Reference" Clock... Call me stubborn but I still think that the 1.5v made it more stable... JMO though.
Edited by Mastiffman - 2/12/10 at 5:04pm
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