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ok ive just done some 3dmarc 06 tests as requested by mastiff, i am also interested in whether it actually makes a difference to performance raising the fsb, as it seems too be making a difference when doing real world things, and also helps slightly when it comes to benchmarks.
the first screen shot shown is the origanal run with cpu oc'ed to 4.2 using just the multi,


this next one is with the cpu oc'ed using the fsb @4.2 again, also i set both the nb and ht slightly lower but couldnt match the ram speed to the first 06 run, but lowering the nb and ht should even it out,

and finally i did another run with a fsb oc @4.2 but this time i wacked the volts up from stock (1.39 ) to 1.5,



as you can see from above there is a slight increase in performance by oc'ing using the fsb but not as much as i first thought but still every little bit helps.
Well I would have to agree that this evidence shows that there is some performance increase by use of increased HTRef Clk Mhz.

I want to also apologise for any confusion that I caused by claiming that increased HT link Frequencies will improve performance. I think that what was confusing me was the increased HT Ref Clk Freq that was adding the performance boost. Although very minor it was the reason for my confusion....

Thanks ezgonzo for opening my eye's to this.

It seems that the combination of HT ref Clk and Multiplier OCing is best. I never reaslized that Ram frequency didn't really make a difference in the 3DMark Score. Very interesting though! The only thing that increased HT Link Freq. will do is increase the "Available" bandwidth which is only a benefit in multi GPU setups. So maybe in CF+ it would benefit. Even though my HTLink was over 30hours blend stable @ 3ghz, facts show there is no need for it. I lowered it down to below 2ghz and still got the same 3DMark06 score. I thought this whole time that the performance boost as I increased my ram freq. above 1600Mhz was from exactly that. it's obviously from the HT Ref Clk increase.

So nice to work and thanks to you fellows that shed some on this subject for me!
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any one get there NB to 3000mhz stable? and if so what voltage did you use?
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thanks, hope ya head feels ok, go sleep . but as i haven't really tryed overclocking NB due to this boards stupid heat problems. its setting at 56c now thats at 2600mhz.
I think your confusing the NB with the CPU-NB,the temp problem were having is the NB chipset,which is on the board,when we refer to overclocking the NB,it's actualy the NB frequency which is on the CPU,ie the IMC,hope this clarifies things.
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Well I would have to agree that this evidence shows that there is some performance increase by use of increased HTRef Clk Mhz.

I want to also apologise for any confusion that I caused by claiming that increased HT link Frequencies will improve performance. I think that what was confusing me was the increased HT Ref Clk Freq that was adding the performance boost. Although very minor it was the reason for my confusion....

Thanks ezgonzo for opening my eye's to this.

It seems that the combination of HT ref Clk and Multiplier OCing is best. I never reaslized that Ram frequency didn't really make a difference in the 3DMark Score. Very interesting though! The only thing that increased HT Link Freq. will do is increase the "Available" bandwidth which is only a benefit in multi GPU setups. So maybe in CF+ it would benefit. Even though my HTLink was over 30hours blend stable @ 3ghz, facts show there is no need for it. I lowered it down to below 2ghz and still got the same 3DMark06 score. I thought this whole time that the performance boost as I increased my ram freq. above 1600Mhz was from exactly that. it's obviously from the HT Ref Clk increase.

So nice to work and thanks to you fellows that shed some on this subject for me!
mastiff, no need to apologise, i wasnt trying to prove anyone wrong i was actually trying to prove to myself, as i was uncertain to some extent aswell whether higher fsb would yeild better performance,
i also ran another number of benchs and in one of them i upped my ram from 658mhz to 823mhz and my score actually went down by 8 points, i used the same timings for both tests so maybe if i tightened the timings i might have seen an improvement,
i also did a number of runs with multi / fsb oc's and the results indicated that by setting the multi below ref (17) and then raising the fsb didnt increase performance it actually decreased it, where as using both the fsb and multi together to acheive the same clock as a multi clock i did see improvement,
i also saw no real benefit in running the htlink @2600 in 3dmarc 06 but that doesnt mean that other benchs wont benefit from it being set that high and the same goes for the fsb and ram speeds, i need to run a few more different benchmarks to really be able to see which combination of settings and speeds make a difference and which ones dont,
it would also be really usefull to see what results others get and would help us all out in trying to figure out what really works and what doesnt with these new phenoms and this board.
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Well I would have to agree that this evidence shows that there is some performance increase by use of increased HTRef Clk Mhz.

I want to also apologise for any confusion that I caused by claiming that increased HT link Frequencies will improve performance. I think that what was confusing me was the increased HT Ref Clk Freq that was adding the performance boost. Although very minor it was the reason for my confusion....

Thanks ezgonzo for opening my eye's to this.

It seems that the combination of HT ref Clk and Multiplier OCing is best. I never reaslized that Ram frequency didn't really make a difference in the 3DMark Score. Very interesting though! The only thing that increased HT Link Freq. will do is increase the "Available" bandwidth which is only a benefit in multi GPU setups. So maybe in CF+ it would benefit. Even though my HTLink was over 30hours blend stable @ 3ghz, facts show there is no need for it. I lowered it down to below 2ghz and still got the same 3DMark06 score. I thought this whole time that the performance boost as I increased my ram freq. above 1600Mhz was from exactly that. it's obviously from the HT Ref Clk increase.

So nice to work and thanks to you fellows that shed some on this subject for me!
I went through the same stuff about a year ago. Though I think spec proved that with a crossfire setup he was getting about a 300 point increase with the ht link oced.
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Wait, whats the HTRef Clk? I don't recall that option in the BIOS anywhere.
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Wait, whats the HTRef Clk? I don't recall that option in the BIOS anywhere.
It's the HTT/FSB stock is 200.
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It's the HTT/FSB stock is 200.
Ok, I can vouch for that then. I just beat my previous 3dmark06 personal record by 1400 poitns from last night to just now. Before it was 20,100 marks at 200x19 for 3.8Ghz... 2800nb, 775core on my 5850... I just ran 21,570 marks at 205x20 for 4.1ghz 1.49vcore, 2870nb, 2000htt, 775 core 5850. I'm seeign decent performance increases from it. I also have my pci-e freq. up a bit, and a couple not so normal voltages pushed up a bit.

What do you guys think about the pci-e voltage options, and ht link voltages, etc... phy, pll, so forth...

EDIT: Also, what causes hypertransport flood errors? I was playing Crysis Warhead for AWHILE at 205x20 for 4.1ghz, 2870nb, and 2000htt before it finally black screened, and said that at post.
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the ht flood error is usually due to lack of vcore volts or cpu/nb volts, so up the volts one @ a time and see which one while stable it out.
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I figured it was cpu-nb... Im at 1.3, whats safe past that?
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