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Hi guys!

I have found a quite interesting review about "our" MOBO - it could be very useful - gives a few hints about performance and voltages.

Thought you may want to read it: HardwareCanucks - MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 Motherboard Review

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Originally Posted by moorhen2 View Post
morheen2
Could you be so kind please and post this link with 1.10B2 Bios again? Tried to find it but I got another numeration of pages (I set them to be displayed 40 post at the page so right now the last page I can see is 130 (and yeah, I am lazy TIA

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You see I just can't believe you can (that means all of you) run your memory with 1:4 divider and at 1800 MHz with so tight timings

I did some test yesterday and I managed to run my Patriots memory modules with 1:4 divider at 1600 MHz with 6-6-6-18-25 1T but...

Prime95 "verified" it after a minute or so... it didn't hang up but after one minute one of running thread stopped then after another 2 minutes another another one gave up!!!
I didn't take any screenshot (it was 6 am in the morning so I was tired like hell).
Nevertheless I will write you my configuration in BIOS.
FSB = 200 MHz (CPU wasn't overclocked but I put some extra volts)

CPU V = 1.35
CPU NB = 1.45 (damn, under load in Prime it was 1.4880
CPU DDR PHY = 1.26 V
DRAM V = 2.01!!! (it's too much I think and I was afraid to bump it up even more )
NB V = 1.25 V
HT Link = 1.23 V (didn't know if it was necessary but ... I did it
SB V = 1.22 V (the same as above)

I forgot to mention that I have changed Clock Drive Strength to 1.25 x .

Just admit that these are some insane settings comparing to your results. Is it because of my Phenom revision and weaker IMC ?

What I have noticed that these memory modules produce a lot of heat under stress in Prime95 blend mode.

Recently I have bought Scythe Kaze Server Fan controller with temperature sensors. So I have put one between my memory modules (sticked it to the side of radiators - you will see it at the bottom of the picture)
.
So, in Prime 95 - blend mode this temperature goes up to 40*C !!! and that's the temperature measured only at the surface of a radiator. Real temp must be a few degrees higher :/
My assumption is that a heat causes all of this instability and that I cannot overclock achieve tighter memory timings with stable work.
I thought about putting some extra fan 120 mm which should push air onto these sticks or to build some kind of "shroud" (like Kokin did). But I don't know what kind of material to use... These temperatures are really high so plastic or a cardboard is out of a question ... I think.

Maybe a Bios update (moorhen2 - would you be so kind? ;>) will resolve this problem with instability?

BTW! It would be a good idea to change OP and post there a link to all beta versions of Bioses ? huh?
Edited by pendrago - 2/26/10 at 11:26am
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That's it,getting my credit card out again,damn you "NCspec",lol!!!

I might get these as well:
I have those exact Dominator GT's. I love em there very nice and look very sexy! Work great paired with the GD70 to!
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I have those exact Dominator GT's. I love em there very nice and look very sexy! Work great paired with the GD70 to!
can you get them without the fan? i cant seem to find them exact version only some blue pair >.<
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Originally Posted by pendrago View Post
Hi guys!

I have found a quite interesting review about "our" MOBO - it could be very useful - gives a few hints about performance and voltages.

Thought you may want to read it: HardwareCanucks - MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 Motherboard Review

To
Could you be so kind please and post this link with 1.10B2 Bios again? Tried to find it but I got another numeration of pages (I set them to be displayed 40 post at the page so right now the last page I can see is 130 (and yeah, I am lazy TIA

------------------------------

You see I just can't believe you can (that means all of you) run your memory with 1:4 divider and at 1800 MHz with so tight timings

I did some test yesterday and I managed to run my Patriots memory modules with 1:4 divider at 1600 MHz with 6-6-6-18-25 1T but...

Prime95 "verified" it after a minute or so... it didn't hang up but after one minute one of running thread stopped then after another 2 minutes another another one gave up!!!
I didn't take any screenshot (it was 6 am in the morning so I was tired like hell).
Nevertheless I will write you my configuration in BIOS.
FSB = 200 MHz (CPU wasn't overclocked but I put some extra volts)

CPU V = 1.35
CPU NB = 1.45 (damn, under load in Prime it was 1.4880
CPU DDR PHY = 1.26 V
DRAM V = 2.01!!! (it's too much I think and I was afraid to bump it up even more )
NB V = 1.25 V
HT Link = 1.23 V (didn't know if it was necessary but ... I did it
SB V = 1.22 V (the same as above)

Just admit that these are some insane settings comparing to your results. Is it because of my Phenom revision and weaker IMC ?

What I have noticed that these memory modules produce a lot of heat under stress in Prime95 blend mode.

Recently I have bought Scythe Kaze Server Fan controller with temperature sensors. So I have put one between my memory modules (sticked it to the side of radiators - you will see it at the bottom of the picture)
.
So, in Prime 95 - blend mode this temperature goes up to 40*C !!! and that's the temperature measured only at the surface of a radiator. Real temp must be a few degrees higher :/
My assumption is that a heat causes all of this instability and that I cannot overclock achieve tighter memory timings with stable work.
I thought about putting some extra fan 120 mm which should push air onto these sticks or to build some kind of "shroud" (like Kokin did). But I don't know what kind of material to use... These temperatures are really high so plastic or a cardboard is out of a question ... I think.

Maybe a Bios update (moorhen2 - would you be so kind? ;>) will resolve this problem with instability?

BTW! It would be a good idea to change OP and post there a link to all beta versions of Bioses ? huh?
Page 470 for the link to bios,what ram are you using,and what is the stock voltage and timings,????
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I have those exact Dominator GT's. I love em there very nice and look very sexy! Work great paired with the GD70 to!
Plus they overclock like hell,lol!!!
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can you get them without the fan? i cant seem to find them exact version only some blue pair >.<
I think they always come with the fan. What are you searching Dominator GT or just Dominator?

EDIT; Here is my exact pair.

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Plus they overclock like hell,lol!!!
You mean they dont overclock good, or they do?
Edited by Chucklez - 2/26/10 at 11:31am
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can you get them without the fan? i cant seem to find them exact version only some blue pair >.<
They come with the fan,the blue ones you mension are not the same,these are GT's and BEMP versions,for PH2's,
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I think they always come with the fan. What are you searching Dominator GT or just Dominator?

EDIT; Here is my exact pair.



You mean they dont overclock good, or they do?
They overclock very well,lol!!
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They overclock very well,lol!!
Ahh yes that they do! I love mine so much, wish I would have waited though to get the newer 1600 6-6-6-20 ones made for AMD systems.. Oh well though.
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What people have to remember is cores are locked for a reason,2 cores did'nt make the grade,if they did they would be quads,lol!!!
True...

But, I have a 720BE running at 2.8GHz and a 550BE running at 3.675GHz...both on all 4 cores stably...the 720BE for almost 2 years, and the 550BE for almost 4 months.

I'm not counting on it being perfect on 4 cores out of the box. But if I can raise the CPU-V up .25 or .375 volts and get a stable 4 core chip...well...yay me
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