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I installed 1.9 and it fixed my issues with certain NB freq. causing no POST and I like the new look. I don't have any eSata devices tho, so I wouldn't know of any probs with that : /
well it's weird......it's an enclosure that has an hdd activity light that blinks when accessed.....when i boot up the light blinks once and the post reports an eSata hdd......then to my raid0 array and then windows boot screen......but now since the update it'll just sit at detecting eSata and the light keep blinking like it's being accessed.....i reset and boom......it detects it again just fine and proceeds to boot into windows......i thought my hdd is going out but it does this with two other hdds in different enclosure......everything was ok BEFORE the bios update
    
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well it's weird......it's an enclosure that has an hdd activity light that blinks when accessed.....when i boot up the light blinks once and the post reports an eSata hdd......then to my raid0 array and then windows boot screen......but now since the update it'll just sit at detecting eSata and the light keep blinking like it's being accessed.....i reset and boom......it detects it again just fine and proceeds to boot into windows......i thought my hdd is going out but it does this with two other hdds in different enclosure......everything was ok BEFORE the bios update
If you dont have any e-sata drives installed,disable e-sata in the bios,then your system wont look for them at boot-up,hope this helps.
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Rated for 1600Mhz CL7?
Yes it's 1600Mhz CL7.

@1333mhz I can't go lower than CL6
@1800mhz+ I can't get past the Windows Logo unless I go CL8.
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No problem here,lol,have you tried 110ns,90ns probably not enough.And you will need more voltage as well.
How can I change these values in BIOS? (it is a lame question - a little explenation needed

Moorhen ... could you post a link to yours RAM's modules manufacturer page - it means - what kind of RAM sticks you use excactly (I would like to see them I am considering my RAM change (these PDPs' are pissing me off

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1.102b are even better. It took my Max Bootable Ram Freq from 1680Mhz to over 1800..... @ CL6-6-6-18 Just not stable yet...
The same question to Mastiffman - could you post a link to your RAM modules manufacturer? I'd like to do a little comparison

OK! Last night I hit 4 GHz with my RAM set at 1780 (unfortunately divider 1:3.33) don't even ask for my settings in Bios but I will post it here anyway

CPU = 1.55 V
CPU NB = 1.46 V (in everest it was something like 1.51
CPU DDR - PHY = 1.26
DRAM = 2.01 (I don't really know what is wrong with these sticks... I was afraid to bump up the voltage higher
NB V = 1.27
HT Link = 1.25 V

It even posted and loaded Windows (I was quite happy but my happiness ended when I ran Prime 95 after 5 sec BSOD ... yeah . I didn't even take a screenshot (wanted to make this settings stable but I couldn't
But what I did with a half succes was to run my rig at 3825 MHz


...and as you can see LinX stable 20 passes, RAM 7-7-7-21-28 1T but... after an hour in Prime 95 it has crashed

so... I ask you oh! the greatest overclockers - WTH? :>
Prime95 pushes hardware to its limits I think ... especially when it comes to RAM testing - measured the temps on both sticks - it was sth around 38-39*C

So ? Is my rig stable what is shown in LinX or is it completely unstable according to Prime95?
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Here you go Pendrago,ram i use is g-skill ripjaws-manufacturer code is F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH,7-7-7-24,pic below:


These are the settings you could try changing,not saying it will help you,but worth a try:

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Here you go Pendrago,ram i use is g-skill ripjaws-manufacturer code is F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH,7-7-7-24,pic below:
Thanks a lot for the link! I think first of all I will change my CPU for the Black Edition one Rev C3 maybe? I really don't know.

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These are the settings you could try changing,not saying it will help you,but worth a try:
Thanks again but I have tried it (typed it excactly like on the screen with 2.0 V on my DRAM sticks) - nothing... I mean I can have 1700 MHz (1:3.33 divider) but as soon as load IntelBurn Test or Prime95 I see only BSOD (or when I have luck only a warning that my system is unstable). pffff Maybe I should stop at the level I am right now almost 3.7 GHz is not so bad but these timings 7-7-7-21-28 1T... they should go higher (tighter) but once again I can only dream running my RAM at CAS 6 latency

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I think your 945 is at it's limits,being a non BE,your limited to HTT overclocking,which is a shame,not all ram will take higher frequency and tighter timings,just the way things are.
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OK! Last night I hit 4 GHz with my RAM set at 1780 (unfortunately divider 1:3.33) don't even ask for my settings in Bios but I will post it here anyway

CPU = 1.55 V
CPU NB = 1.46 V (in everest it was something like 1.51
CPU DDR - PHY = 1.26
DRAM = 2.01 (I don't really know what is wrong with these sticks... I was afraid to bump up the voltage higher
NB V = 1.27
HT Link = 1.25 V
You should be scared yo, 2.01v is TOO much for your RAM, most likely. 1.46 cpu -nb? You might be unstable because of TOO much voltage, overheating specific things. Maybe your RAM isn't overheating, but one important part of the RAM is at that voltage, you know, something small, surface mount. Some of your voltages need to come down I think. I've been 4ghz stable and above with WAY lower voltages.

1.512vcore to CPU just to have it at bench
1.3 - 1.35v cpu-nb
tap phy up a notch or two
DRAM, 1.6-1.95 would be my guess, my RAM is 1.6, so I do 1.7 just to have extra juice, it is OC'd via FSB a little, so it helps
NB, 1.25-1.3v is fine
HT Link, I keep 1.25v, never a problem ( I think)

What's everyone's thoughts on the OC ability via RAM slots? Like, I was stuck using the second set of slots furthest away from CPU for the longest time because the cooler stretched over first two. Now that I'm on w/c, I have switched my dimms over to the black slots in first two slots. Being physically closer, they should run better then the blue slots. I know for a FACT, this was VERY important on my 939 setup, but IDK with AM3. I've heard ppl say the blue slots (further away slots) OC'd better anyway? What should I expect in switching slots? And how can I accurately tell the differences. Obviously if I'm all the sudden 4.1+ stable when I never could before, somethings different, but I couldn't be sure based on the fact I mess with so many options every restart... lol And I've been breaking into my hyper transport flood eroor Ive been getting recently.
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I was wonderin if anyone can help me tweek my memory timing I have OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB), Im new to MSI I used to use Asus but they let me down and tryin to get similar wit MSI's OC system. When I boot up for sum reason my memory is not set to 1600 and dont know where to go to change it.
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Here you go Pendrago,ram i use is g-skill ripjaws-manufacturer code is F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH,7-7-7-24,pic below:


These are the settings you could try changing,not saying it will help you,but worth a try:
Loosening these settings up while attemping to run higher Ram frequencies will help. How much really depends on the Ram. Even if you are set to 1600 @ Manual CL8 Timings and you lossen these settings, you can see the results through Everest Memcache bench that they impair the latency, Mildy. But it can increase stability. Doesn't always mean that it will... So defeintely worth the try.

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I think your 945 is at it's limits,being a non BE,your limited to HTT overclocking,which is a shame,not all ram will take higher frequency and tighter timings,just the way things are.
I wouldn't think so being that the HTRClk can be taken as high as 340Mhz+ on this board. So with a multi of x13, that should be more than enought o get past 3.7 stably. But then again I guess that it depends ont he CPU quality.


Pan, did you ever take a pic of the CPU's IHS before installing it to verify the OPN, Die Cut and Batch Date? That might gives a good idea of what to expect out of your Processor...

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What's everyone's thoughts on the OC ability via RAM slots? Like, I was stuck using the second set of slots furthest away from CPU for the longest time because the cooler stretched over first two. Now that I'm on w/c, I have switched my dimms over to the black slots in first two slots. Being physically closer, they should run better then the blue slots. I know for a FACT, this was VERY important on my 939 setup, but IDK with AM3. I've heard ppl say the blue slots (further away slots) OC'd better anyway? What should I expect in switching slots? And how can I accurately tell the differences. Obviously if I'm all the sudden 4.1+ stable when I never could before, somethings different, but I couldn't be sure based on the fact I mess with so many options every restart... lol And I've been breaking into my hyper transport flood eroor Ive been getting recently.
Being that DDR2 and DDR3 have "On Die Termination", unlike DDR, trace length methodology is reversed, not to mention how much faster DDR3, especially is... Now, to avoid singal ringing, which causes instability from crossing signals (IIRC), one must install the Dimm in the Dimm Slots furthest from the CPU Socket. Before (like with 939 DDR), Termination was located on the CPU (or was it the MoBo?) only so trace length played a part instability because it was about timing the signal reaching the termination action....

HERE is the Link to my Rams MFR Page.


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