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Just an observation,but when i see screens of peoples desktops,the taskbars are allways huge,for those that dont know,if you right click on the taskbar,select properties,and select use small icons,you get a slimline taskbar,but then some users may prefer the bigger taskbar,just a thought.


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Mybe i came across wrongly,just stating that XP was never designed for use with multi core cpu's,so it must have some reflection on why mastiffs g-flops were 4x higher in xp than in W7,maybe i'm wrong,
I agree, sounds reasonable at least!

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@ Mastiffman -- never run a 32-bit O/S since the beginning of this build 7 months ago. But, that does seem pretty odd, especially cool how quickly it ran all the tests.

@ Moorhen2 -- That seems backwards, if XP wasn't supposed to be able to take advantage of the cores, than wouldn't it be slower by a 4th, and not faster by 4x? IDK.

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Yeah, very interesting results here... 12 Seconds... @ 211-213Gflops... Why though? only 32bit data throughput?
 

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Mybe i came across wrongly,just stating that XP was never designed for use with multi core cpu's,so it must have some reflection on why mastiffs g-flops were 4x higher in xp than in W7,maybe i'm wrong,

No, only that word came accross "Incorrectly"! LOL
Look at the difference in the L3 Cache as well. This was from W7 x64

Think maybe it's the Voltage for the CPU-NB or just the difference in OS? I would think that the Cache would operate in the same manner.... No?



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Well it happens at stock as well...just takes a long time to read all the sensors...and this only happens on startup and affects any program that needs to check systems, including 3dmark vantage and 06, cpuz, cpuid etc etc.
Have you checked your BIOS if your AMD cool n quiet is enabled or disabled? I remember clearing my CMOS before and just booting it up on stock everything caused my start up to take almost a minute when it normally takes 20-ish seconds.

EDIT: Btw, did anyone notice crashing with your browser more often with a 3000mhz OC on your NB? Whenever I set it to 3000mhz, I always get a lot of crashes when I have Flash apps running on Firefox. This only happens at 3000mhz+, at 2900 or lower, I don't get this problem.
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Have you checked your BIOS if your AMD cool n quiet is enabled or disabled? I remember clearing my CMOS before and just booting it up on stock everything caused my start up to take almost a minute when it normally takes 20-ish seconds.

EDIT: Btw, did anyone notice crashing with your browser more often with a 3000mhz OC on your NB? Whenever I set it to 3000mhz, I always get a lot of crashes when I have Flash apps running on Firefox. This only happens at 3000mhz+, at 2900 or lower, I don't get this problem.
Only if the volts weren't there!
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i was hopeing you guys could clarify something for me. what are the pro's and con's of a HT link overclock and what does it do? i set mine at 2600 (nb 2800) just to see what would happen as far as performance gains or instability and i didn't notice any difference.
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Just remember that the HT Link (Hypertransport Link) is the link between the processors themselves and the NB Chipset. All that it does is provide bandwidth for communication between them.... The only thing that I've noticed that it does if increased is add a couple of points to 3D benches...

Some believe that it can aid instability of the CPU-NB if matched in frequency. When I had both the CPU-NB and HTLink running at 3.003ghz I didn't really think that it stabilized the CPU-NB easier (with less volts) though...
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This may be off topic, but why cant we as enthusiast PC owners and overclockers dig deeper into all the memory options on this board so we can maybe dial our RAM in. There HAS to be some math involved that can help us calculate ALL those different options, not just CAS, tRCD, tRP, and tRAS. ALSO, all the drive strengths. s939 days RAM was often time made more stable by understandng where to lower and increase dram strengths. I personally don't know much still, even after all me research.
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This may be off topic, but why cant we as enthusiast PC owners and overclockers dig deeper into all the memory options on this board so we can maybe dial our RAM in. There HAS to be some math involved that can help us calculate ALL those different options, not just CAS, tRCD, tRP, and tRAS. ALSO, all the drive strengths. s939 days RAM was often time made more stable by understandng where to lower and increase dram strengths. I personally don't know much still, even after all me research.
I couldn't agree with you more But it seems that most, not all, people that act like the know, either Really Don't Know or it's looked at like a type of Fricken Taboo or soemthing to talk about! LOL It's really kind of ridiculous!

So I feel ya man! I'm working on a source right now.... So hope fully I can get some answers. I was recently told that "Drive Strengths" are more 'Dimm Specific" and NOT "Speed Spicific"... But it's funny that Changing my Drv Strths has affected certain speeds... I'm still experimenting, trying to find a patern with it all. I'm mean there are Really WAY TO MANY options in the Advanced Dram Configuration Menu for them NOT to have an affect... Especially like Dram ODT (On Die Termination).

It's value is in "ohms". It can be used to change (increase) the signal quality for the Ram. As DDR3 Speeds increase, there is something called "Signal ringing" that can be corrected with ODT. But "HOW TO" is the question for us enquiring minds...

EDIT: This is what I'm talking about.... this is the response that I just got from the source that I was talking about.

What???? It's like people are either affraid to spread the wealth of knowledge or they really are completely positive abuot something and don't want to risk their reputation... IDK man...

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For 24/7 honestly the best approach is the KISS method keep it simple stupid and for 24/7 use you don't need uber timings.

Set the primaries and voltage and leave the rest alone. Whats holding back your IMC is your timings, most d9 with any shread of stability save 1m top out around 1720 with C6, need to drop to c7 for higher.

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