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Moorhen2 Turns out it was my audio drivers for the board doing the crashing... I

uninstalled it and now everything runs like a charm... Also I was cleaning my Case out an

hour ago and had my PSU sitting on my floor. I wasn't paying attention and my dog pee'd

on it .. I know I know LOL LOL , but now it doesn't work and I had to go back to a

less powerful PSU. A raidmax 500w PSU. It seems like all my case fans and cpu fan is

running slower. Do you guys think my 500w PSU doesn't have enough juice to run This

Beast? I have no instability yet and everything works fine. My idle temp tho is a little

higher @ 50c with everything at stock settings, but with stock HS/F. I just ordered a

Zalman CNP9900 so hopefully that helps.
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Has anyone ever used the Max FSB option? Does it really work?
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Nightcrawla,your bios should be something like this,but dont copy my settings,not for default as you are running,just to give you an idea:
OK! so I got a couple of question now

First of all:
Your DDR Vref voltage. I know this is half of a size of DRAM voltage but why did you set it manualy?

Your CPU PLL Voltage = I still don't know what does this voltage do? and why you set it to 2.16 V ?

I have tried recently to push up a little bit my RAM and these are the results (I know they are not very good but - it's stable configuration)


That's the fastest (stable) RAM configuration... I just need more volts ... and I am already running my RAM at 1.90 V ...

So, thinking about stabilize my RAM I made sth like this - (just don't laugh it's a beta version



and installed in my computer:


I will have to change it tomorrow because I didn't find this solution to make my RAM more cool.... So, I will inverse the airflow direction from pull to push and hopefully I will have some better results. I have measured a temperatures and it's around 30*C and in Prime95 under full load it goes up to 36-37 I have measured it only at a surface so a real temp must be a couple of degrees higher.

and... sorry for the offtopic but is this


(in Windows 7 x64 ) means that I have Native Command Queuing on? It does say the disk supports it ... I know but how can I check if it is enabled?
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Well guys I've been following this thread for weeks cus I've been set on getting this board and a 965 BE.

But the 965 prices have jumped up and I can make an i5 750 system for about $15 dollars less, I know thats not that much money but I'm wondering if the i5 750 rig would be better?

Would any of you go with an i5 750 instead of your phenom 965 systems for a little less/same amount of money?
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That sucks Rewind,well in my opinion it can only be the gpu's being different,like i mentioned before,the 4890 is a different revision chip to the 4870,thats the only thing i can think off.

I cant see it being the spillage,if that was the case,i dont think the PCI-E slot would work at all,thats my opinion anyway,
I am pretty positive the 4890 isn't whats limiting the bus speed as i haven't read of that happening on any of the setups i have reviewed (4890+48xx) and yes i know the idea of the soda only slowing down my slot is far fetched but what else is there...

At the moment i have a little to null bottleneck with the 4870 running in x8 and the last trick up my sleeve is a full reformat and i certainly need a refresh on my current OS

I'll do a format within this month and see if that fixs the issue...trust me i followed your driver install to the tee and even before that i tried my own method using driver sweeper which should have worked...

If anything i am sure i can get MSI to RMA it if i have to

I'm hoping its the OS and when you look at the chances (OS/Slot) there in favor of it being the OS
Edited by Rewindlabs - 3/10/10 at 10:15pm
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Well guys I've been following this thread for weeks cus I've been set on getting this board and a 965 BE.

But the 965 prices have jumped up and I can make an i5 750 system for about $15 dollars less, I know thats not that much money but I'm wondering if the i5 750 rig would be better?

Would any of you go with an i5 750 instead of your phenom 965 systems for a little less/same amount of money?

I tihnk that you may see some Bias opinions here! That's just the bitter truth... I've always liked AMD. I'm not sure if it's because that's what I've always had or it's a type of "Root for the underdog" type of thing. Although I don't think that they're the underdog... I think that they both have their strong points.
It's al really what you want... I think that either way, you'll be happy with what you get. You just have to do your research and really think about what you want out of the system and discover which system will be best for you.

JMO Though!
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I tihnk that you may see some Bias opinions here! That's just the bitter truth... I've always liked AMD. I'm not sure if it's because that's what I've always had or it's a type of "Root for the underdog" type of thing. Although I don't think that they're the underdog... I think that they both have their strong points.
It's al really what you want... I think that either way, you'll be happy with what you get. You just have to do your research and really think about what you want out of the system and discover which system will be best for you.

JMO Though!
I wish i could comment but at this point i have put zero research into the "I line" (Aside from the I7)

And believe it or not i can offer an unbiased opinion...sometimes
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ya, im sure which ever way I go i'll be happy.

I'm new to overclocking so the 965 might be the way to go with the unlocked multiplier.
Not to mention I really want this mobo.

And im reading that i wont need to upgrade it if I want to upgrade to thuban at some point. And the intel 1156 socket may be a dead end socket.

hmmm we'll see, waiting on my tax return anyway for now (what the hell NYS).
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And im reading that i wont need to upgrade it if I want to upgrade to thuban at some point. And the intel 1156 socket may be a dead end socket.
That is something you should seriously consider right there

Intel has a lot of sockets on the market right now and IMHO like you just said you can't be sure whats going to happen on 1156 or how long that socket might be around or what Intel will do next...

With AMD's single AM3 line you know its one line and will be here to stay for quite awhile quite and yes the GD70 will support Thuban so you know you will have options down the road including the monsterous Thuban

Surprisingly this post was not filled with bias AMD remarks...something must be wrong with me

My NB just hit 71C FFS...running Prime95 and i have my GPU's stress testing in Afterburner

Mastiff you have any recommendations on getting my NB temps down?

I'm about to aim a spotcool on my NB...in fact il go find a way to mount it


Edit: Keep in mind i am running my rig with the side panel off and on the other side of a wall in my closet so i can barely hear any of the fans...i set an Antec spotcool on my NB and put a scythe kaze set ontop of my PSU so the top part of the fan blows air over the rear of the back of the 4870 onto my NB and into my 4890 and the bottom half of the kaze blows air into my PSU and 4870

Temps are dropping like crazy
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That is something you should seriously consider right there
Intel has a lot of sockets on the market right now and IMHO like you just said you can't be sure whats going to happen on 1156 or how long that socket might be around or what Intel will do next...

With AMD's single AM3 line you know its one line and will be here to stay for quite awhile quite and yes the GD70 will support Thuban so you know you will have options down the road including the monsterous Thuban

Surprisingly this post was not filled with bias AMD remarks...something must be wrong with me

My NB just hit 71C FFS...running Prime95 and i have my GPU's stress testing in Afterburner

LOL- I haven't heard that phrase in a long time! Thanks for the Laugh Rewind!

Mastiff you have any recommendations on getting my NB temps down?

I'm about to aim a spotcool on my NB...in fact il go find a way to mount it
Did you pop the VRM/ NB/ SB Heat sink off anf replace the TIM? Itactually kind of easy and if you're going to be pulling that SHtuff apart anyhow to check the PCIe sockets again, possibly, then I would definitely do it. Just take care to make sure that you don't tweak the HS and Pipes any. It won't sit on there correctly unless you striaghten it.

I used a HARD mounted mirror. One that doesn't flex at all. Place the whole heat sink against the mirror virtically, placing most of the preasure on the VRM/ NB chipset section of the heatsink, being that it's the heaviest. Then look to see if Both of the SB Screw holes are sitting about .5 of a MM away fromt he mirror surface. THAT is wat you want. That way you know that each of the Chips heat sinks will be perfectly sitting against the Chip surfaces.

Note though... Make sure that the SB and NB. VRM heat sinks are perfectly parralell. If not you will get and uneven contact between the chips and heat sinks.... I used AS5. Then TX-3, Now back to AS5.... TX-3 didn't seem to do the job as well s they predicted....

Other than that, I use the Fan off of the stock PhenomII HS and mount it with a couple of screws over the NB HS.... Unless you want to water cool it! That's really all that you can do!
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