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hi jedijosh, if you could fill out your system info which is located in your usercp that would help us out, secondly turn off spectrum as well as cool & quite if you havant already and thirdly set your ram to the recommended timings and volts, you may want to set the volts a knotch or too higher then stock if your planning on running @ 1600mh,
if that doesnt help then up your cpu/nb volts a knotch or too, maybe try around the 1.25- 1.30v to start with,
also which ati ccc drivers are you using, the reason i ask is because im unable to use any of the 10.? drivers as i just end up getting random errors, bsod as well as freezing and hypertransport errors, so as a result im back using the 9.12 drivers,
hope that helps.
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Ya the rated timings on my RAM are 8-8-8-24 I have been putting the 2 sticks into T2 mode because of the instability issues and the voltage that the motherboard sets is 1.6 and I know that specs say 1.65. The only problem with running one stick at a time is that it is dual channel, so it needs both sticks in to even turn on. I tried moving the sticks to slots 3 and 4 on the Motherboard... doesn't seem to help. This is a long shot, but do you think its a PS problem? I have Spectrum turned on for power spikes, and I do live the US where power is stable, but I am getting sick of this crashing and its soooo hard to trouble shoot when the BSOD error log is so general. Perhaps it could be the BIOS version too?? 1.90 is what I have, anyone have a better BIOS version that is stable? Here is a link to my RAM.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...8_dual_channel
First thing, Spread Spectrum should always be turned off, especially when you're gonna start overclocking. It can cause surges that throw off the stability of your system and can result in damaged parts. Also, try to boot with CoolnQuiet disabled, Unlock CPU Core disabled, ACC(Advance Clock Control) disabled, CPU Core Control at Auto and the last 3 disabled.

You can run one RAM stick at a time, but it just runs in single channel mode, instead of dual channel mode. This is a good way to check if one stick or both sticks are faulty/unstable. Just to confirm, you should have a 1:4 divider for your RAM timings and for advanced RAM settings it should be 8-8-8-24-32. I'll provide a picture on the bottom to show you.

The 1.9v BIOS is actually very stable and the only problems anyone reported here was with e-sata components not being read by the BIOS.

It's possible that it might be your PSU on the verge of dying, but you're not exactly pushing it to the limits by any means with your parts, stock or overclocked. So I think this isn't the cause.

Have you checked temps of your CPU during heavy use? If it's close to 60°C, it's probably gonna BSOD on you.

EDIT: What thermal compound did you use? Also, how did you apply it?

The most common causes of BSODs would be the lack of voltage, overclocking too high, conflicting drivers, or faulty parts. Seeing as you run things at stock/default settings, it might be possible that you have a faulty part.

If nothing works, back up all your data and try doing a clean install of your OS and only install the drivers for your GPU(best to use 9.12 drivers for the 5000series, if you're having problems with 10.2). If this is stable, install drivers one by one and stress test it to see if it is stable.

This is pretty much all I can think of right now, if you're still having problems, I'm sure others here can try to think of any possible solutions for you.

*Note* Make sure you set the DRAM Timing Mode for [Both] and set both sticks to rated settings (so 8-8-8-24-auto-32-auto-auto...).

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Does any one know if AMD is going to release a new version of amd overdrive? and if so, when?
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@JediJosh -- I have that RAM, so I can confirm stable settings. FTR, memory is often the point of instability on fresh builds, as can be drivers like the audio driver mentioned in a previous post.

Try this for starters, it should help to determine which component is 'unhappy' right now.

First, disable the Audio in the bios, to start with, also set ram to "Auto" on all, and set the memory voltage to 1.65, this should give you 1066Mhz @ 9-9-9-24, or 9-11-11-24.

Now see if your system is stable, download IntelBurnTest (I believe there is a link on the first page), and run 5 passes on maximum. Sometimes when selecting maximum it will throw an error that you can't use more memory than available, just go back to standard, and then back to maximum, should be fine.

If this completes, then your settings should be fine and it's time to increase your RAM to 1600, 8-8-8-24 @ 1.65v. Run IBT again, if it passes, than you are fine.

Now go back and re-enable your Audio in the bios, and use the computer, if it is crashing after an hour or whatever time frame, than you know it is a driver issue. Because if it has passed 5 runs of IBT on maximum, your speeds and volts are fine, so it must be driver related (or at least something other than your speeds and volts).

Try this to narrow down what is causing your pain, and let us know how it goes.

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I have been after one of these. Do you clever folk think it would make my system happy?
My CPU hits a wall at 3.8 on my Asus mobo.
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I have been after one of these. Do you clever folk think it would make my system happy?
My CPU hits a wall at 3.8 on my Asus mobo.
Well in my opinion the GD70 is the best AM3 board bar none,but then i am biased,lol!!,you may well be able to get a bit more out of your chip on this board,but theres no guarantees.

What chip is it you have,C2/C3 revision.???
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This board won't let me overclock my memory at all. Piece of ****
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This board won't let me overclock my memory at all. Piece of ****
It's not the board,you just cant run memory at 2000mhz on an AM3 cpu,1800mhz is the limit of the IMC,and thats an overclock,the Tridents your using are really for Intel cpu's,that can handle higher frequency memory.
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Well in my opinion the GD70 is the best AM3 board bar none,but then i am biased,lol!!,you may well be able to get a bit more out of your chip on this board,but theres no guarantees.

What chip is it you have,C2/C3 revision.???
Hey. Its just the C2 unfortunately. I will have a look at the GD70
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To all that have helped me this far, Thanks!
Things I have done to create stability, err instability... recently

- Installed Catalyst 9.12 uninstalled 10.2 verifying with uninstallation of old video drivers with Driver Cleaner Pro 1.5
- rebooted into windows normal mode
- set default settings on Motherboard
- Disabled on-board audio
- set everything to auto
- set RAM volatage to 1.65
- booted back into windows normal mode
- ran IntelBurnTest on Maximum on 5 passes. (it only made 2 passes and crashed the computer)
- rebooted back into BIOS
- Disabled AMD Cool 'n' Quiet
- Adjusted CPU-NB Ratio to 12X bumping CPU-NB Freq to 2400 (3 x RAM speed of 800 MHz)
- Disabled Unlock CPU Core
- Disabled ACC
- Auto CPU Core Control
- Disabled Auto OverClock
- Disabled MultiStep OC
- Disabled OC Dial
- set RAM to 8-8-8-24-auto-32-auto-auto...
- 2T Memory Timing
- increased DRAM Voltage to 1.67
- Disabled Spread Spectrum
- Disabled C1E Support
- rebooted into windows normal mode
- ran IntelBurnTest on Maximum on 5 passes.
- Crashed system again (I notice that my Antivirus, MS security essentials, was trying to update in middle of test
- Moving RAM back to slots 1 and 2 on motherboard.
- Rebooted Windows into Safe Mode (no networking)
- ran IntelBurnTest on Maximum on 5 passes while in Safe Mode and got a Critical Error after 3/5 passes
- Changed BIOS RAM and NB settings back to motherboard's defaults, decreasing RAM voltage to 1.65 and rebooting back into Safe Mode to test RAM again with IntelBurnTest on Maximum on 5 passes.
- Results is successful!
- lowered "HT Link Speed" - x5

So my conclusion is:
Could the AMD Overdrive service be causeing issues when it starts when Windows starts up and doing something to the system?
Could the onboard soundcard be causing issues?
Could my CPU cooling be not effective? (I used the Thermal grease attached to the CPU Cooler)

Does anyone use the AMD OverDrive?
Does anyone use the onboard sound?
Is it worth me pulling the CPU cooler off and applying a better thermal grease than the stock grease?
Edited by JediJosh - 3/15/10 at 1:41pm
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