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To all... I just have to tell you that my computer is 100% stable at stock speeds with the 4th core unlocked!! It completely runs the IntelBurnTest on Maximum to completion every time! I was ready to give up but I changed one setting in the BIOS that saved this computer from being tossed out the window. For anyone that can't get their system stable running the OCZ DDR3 1600 Black Edition RAM with the AMD Phenom II 720BE and the msi 790fx-gd70 do this....

DCT Unganged Mode Disabled So the RAM runs at 128-bit. Thats it!
Edited by JediJosh - 3/18/10 at 7:35pm
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off topic. i have friend that has an unused 965 he's trying to unload on me for $125. i think its a c3 but not sure. he sent me the numbers.
HDZ965FBGMBOX 9B72461K90279. any thoughts??
That is a C3.

Now, can anybody do me a favor and explain the voltages, without me having to go through these 200 pages of mostly unhelpful posts?

The voltages...which do you focus on?

I'm aiming for 3.4 GHz CPU, and 2.4+ GHz NB with RAM at 1600 7-8-7-24 (Eco 1600)

I have everything running at these speeds, with the occasional BSOD. No idea what is failing. I lowered my vdimm to 1.45v instead of Auto, and it seems to be happening more often, though I know this stuff will do 2000+ CL8 at 1.5v..
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these 200 pages of mostly unhelpful posts?
No offense... But That's Not going to get you very far in my Book..... That could have been left out.

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I lowered my vdimm to 1.45v instead of Auto, and it seems to be happening more often, though I know this stuff will do 2000+ CL8 at 1.5v..
Only on intel. It's whole different ball game on AMD Platforms...
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That is a C3.

Now, can anybody do me a favor and explain the voltages, without me having to go through these 200 pages of mostly unhelpful posts?

The voltages...which do you focus on?

I'm aiming for 3.4 GHz CPU, and 2.4+ GHz NB with RAM at 1600 7-8-7-24 (Eco 1600)

I have everything running at these speeds, with the occasional BSOD. No idea what is failing. I lowered my vdimm to 1.45v instead of Auto, and it seems to be happening more often, though I know this stuff will do 2000+ CL8 at 1.5v..
With your setup you should be able to bang out 3.8 or better by raising cpu multiplier to 18 cpu voltage to 1.5. NB voltage @ 2400=1.4 and set your ram divider to 1:4 @ auto voltage and read those 200 pages of "mostly unhelpful posts" so as not to rub those of us who have done the work the wrong way. As for running ram @ 2000+ CL8, Good Luck with that as the AMD integrated mem controller doesn't like running above 1600 and that's being setup by someone who knows a lot more than most of us
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My mistake, I actually didn't realize it was just rods that connect to the mobo, so I thought it could just be plugged in.

My 955's batch number is 90437, so I don't think it's gonna be that great of a performer. I can run my NB at 3ghz, but it's not Prime95 stable, though I can play games with it, so I'm happy enough with that.

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To all... I just have to tell you that my computer is 100% stable at stock speeds with the 4th core unlocked!! It completely runs the IntelBurnTest on Maximum to completion every time! I was ready to give up but I changed one setting in the BIOS that saved this computer from being tossed out the window. For anyone that can't get their system stable running the OCZ DDR3 1600 Black Edition RAM with the AMD Phenom II 720BE and the msi 790fx-gd70 do this....

DCT Unganged Mode Disabled So the RAM runs at 128-bit. Thats it!
Nice work on the find. Just so you know, that will hinder performance a bit. Yes, it's more stable on some setups, but it's aimed more for single threaded apps. What "Ganged Mode" does, is take the IMC and turn it into a single 128bit Controller. That "Fixes" both IMC's (being that there are Actually 2 Integrated Memory Controllers) to specific Dram Domains (Channel A or Channel B). That, in turn, forces the Single 128bit Controller interface to have to wait for Data to be processed on a strictly consecutive basis. So to speak.

Unganged allows Both of the IMC's to access Both Memory Domains equally, allowing better performance becuase of the fact that both IMC's can access the Ram Domains Freely...

It's kind of like the difference of having 2 people cutting a big lawn with 22" push mowers [bagless of course ] (Unganged mode) compared to 1 person with a 36" walk behind. The task will get done faster! Yes, it may be a little more work for each individual Person (or IMC in Unganged mode) but as long as they ate well and are properly hydrated (proper voltage and cooling) then they shouldn't have any issues. The 1 person with the 36" walk behind mower (Ganged Mode) would be easy to just walk with because it's self propelled, but it's cutting less grass per pass than the 2 22" mowers (44").

So hopefully this clears up the reasoning for you as to why you acheived stability by setting the CPU-NB to Ganged mode.

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My mistake, I actually didn't realize it was just rods that connect to the mobo, so I thought it could just be plugged in.

My 955's batch number is 90437, so I don't think it's gonna be that great of a performer. I can run my NB at 3ghz, but it's not Prime95 stable, though I can play games with it, so I'm happy enough with that.

JediJosh, glad you found out your problem!
Ah, no worries! 90437 should get you a good 2850mhz OC on your CPU-NB without having to add Ridiculous Volts for an EDOC (Everyday Overclock)... There's really no piont in added all of that extra voltage to reach 3ghz CPU-NB ultimately adding all of that extra heat (Freq+Volts). When you easily can achieve something just a bit lower for far less sacrifice in power consumption and longevitiy of System...

you would be better off trying to get your Ram down to CAS 6 timings @ 2800-2875mhz CPU-NB the 3ghz @ 1600 CAS 7+...
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Well guys,i have just ordered a set of these beasts,"elpidas" so i know they will overclock a gooden,lol!!!,they will be here monday morning,

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Well... I have decided to RMA the motherboard I can't keep the system stable at all without some serious dumbing down the system.

There is instability with RAM, cannot run system with a stress test or any game on default settings. Here is my current setup:

CPU: Phenom II X3 720 BE
Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70
Memory: OCZ3BE1600C8LV4GK
Graphics Card: Radeon HD 5750
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
Sound Card: MSI 790FX-GD70 On-Board
Power Supply: hec XPOWER780 780W
Case: Antec Three-Hundred
CPU cooling: Thermaltake TR2 R1
GPU cooling: Arctic Cooling (AX5750 1GBD5-PDHG)
OS: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (7600 Build)

All components are brand new and motherboard heat was at maximum 61 Celsius during Prime95 testing. Replaced RAM with other RAM and exact same problems occur with replaced RAM. Tested CPU on another computer, and the CPU ran stable. I reinstalled the OS from a complete format and I still get the same instability. MY conclusion is the motherboard. Frequently, when the system crashes I would get the BIOS error:
A Hyper Transport sync flood error occured on last boot.
Press F1 to Resumenter Setup Menu, F11 to enter Boot Menu

And no... "Resumenter" is not a typo those are the actual words. I just hope MSI can reproduce the same errors that I am getting.
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Well... I have decided to RMA the motherboard I can't keep the system stable at all without some serious dumbing down the system.

There is instability with RAM, cannot run system with a stress test or any game on default settings. Here is my current setup:

CPU: Phenom II X3 720 BE
Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70
Memory: OCZ3BE1600C8LV4GK
Graphics Card: Radeon HD 5750
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
Sound Card: MSI 790FX-GD70 On-Board
Power Supply: hec XPOWER780 780W
Case: Antec Three-Hundred
CPU cooling: Thermaltake TR2 R1
GPU cooling: Arctic Cooling (AX5750 1GBD5-PDHG)
OS: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (7600 Build)

All components are brand new and motherboard heat was at maximum 61 Celsius during Prime95 testing. Replaced RAM with other RAM and exact same problems occur with replaced RAM. Tested CPU on another computer, and the CPU ran stable. I reinstalled the OS from a complete format and I still get the same instability. MY conclusion is the motherboard. Frequently, when the system crashes I would get the BIOS error:
A Hyper Transport sync flood error occured on last boot.
Press F1 to Resumenter Setup Menu, F11 to enter Boot Menu

And no... "Resumenter" is not a typo those are the actual words. I just hope MSI can reproduce the same errors that I am getting.
Well thats a shame,but i really dont think there is anything wrong with the board,sync flood errors are almost allways caused by not enough voltage,and you could be having some driver issues.

Have you been unlocking the 4th core,this can also give stability issues,AMD lock cores for a reason,they did'nt come up to spec,i know you are fed up with all your problems,but these things are sent to try us,lol!!
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