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I see your point,lol!!,i am of the opinion that a lot of the ram speed problems are to do with the PH's having two IMC's,one for ddr2 and one for ddr3,i know AMD like to make there platforms backward compatible,so as not to alienate AM2 and AM2+ users,but there comes a time when we all have to change,so i for one hope the next gen cpu's are ddr3 only.

Any thoughts on this,???
Well AMD has a few tricks up their sleve, I will say that. But Strictly DDR3 inon the horizon. So no worries there. I think that they are making some wise choices. I don't think that they will ever be considered by the mainstream media as being the "leader" in the CPU industry but they are playing the game smart keeping the market competitve.

The end of this year and 2011 will be an exciting time for AMD if all goes well. Not just speaking of the 6 core CPU's. They do have 8 and 12 Core Processors as well. BUT the real butter will be Motherboard based chipsets that will be very Flexible and more efficient as well as powerful and stable. Oh, not to mention COOLER (temp wise and style wise).

We are entering into a new erra of technology and it's advancing at a faster rate than it's ever advanced before. Partially becuase of the technology and partially becuase of limitations of current technology, influencing engineers to become more innovative as well accomplishing execution of the innovation, successfully! So there's some exciting times coming.

To be honest, the best advice I can give to anyone that is considering a 6 core processor..... Hold off until the good stuff comes out! Around 2011. It's not that far away.....

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That sucks, i find that strange since msi has my ram under there tested list, wouldnt that be consider false info\\advertisment?
Yes it is! Just like claiming that the board can do 2133mhz. No it can't! LOL It's good board! It's just can't do the things that they claim it can and that can build a bit of frustration for those trying to hit higher Ram speeds.

The Phenom II C3 Revision CPU's are more capable of handling higher than 1800Mhz than this board can give proof of.
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That sucks, i find that strange since msi has my ram under there tested list, wouldnt that be consider false info\\advertisment?
You are right,your ram is on the supported list,but as an "overclock",it wont run at 2000mhz out the box,you will have to drop the FSB/DRAM ratio divider,to drop the frequency,then up the cpu/fsb frequency to try and get it up to 2000mhz,this is the only way you can achieve it,but theres no guarantees.
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You are right,your ram is on the supported list,but as an "overclock",it wont run at 2000mhz out the box,you will have to drop the FSB/DRAM ratio divider,to drop the frequency,then up the cpu/fsb frequency to try and get it up to 2000mhz,this is the only way you can achieve it,but theres no guarantees.
Can u be more detailed on how to do this, the timmings for 2000mhz are 9-9-9-27 but i dont know how to put them in bios, i get a bunch of settings when i try to change the timmings and i dont know what they mean.
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Hello

I have some problems with my board 790 gd70 and with ram OCZ AMD edition 8 gb dual channel.
First of all the default max Bandwith is PC3-8500F(533Mhz) in CPUZ and to the bios but the manual of board write that is 1333 (667).
Is this a big problem?
Second i chronised my ram at 8-8-8-24 as the OCZ says and fsb ram 1-4 because are 1600.
I have some problems sometimes who running the cpuz the Pc restaring !
Sometimes the in cpuz the cpu ( phenom 965 c3)running at 3600 mhz without overcloking!
I had ram geil black dragon dd3 1333 and i change for this ram for better results.Is this that problem from the ram ocz AMD black edition?
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Hi all,

I just put together a build for my fiancee with this motherboard and am having a few problems. I tried looking through this thread, but it is quite long and wasn't able to find anything.

Specs:
MSI 790FX-GD70
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Basically my problem is with the graphics cards in cross fire mode. I've only tested a couple of games I had laying around so far. Civ 4 gives a lot of artifacts on screen, while Titan Quest freezes and I get the error "AMD driver has stopped responding and successfully recovered". Also, the new version of furmark will give the same error if stress tested at 1980 x 1080 immediately, i.e. the image doesn't even show up before crashing. I've run Memtest overnight and experienced no errors. If I remove the crossfire bridges, the errors go away. I also have two sapphire Radeon HD 4870s in my computer which I swapped into hers and I get the same problems, while putting her 4870s in my computer causes no problems. I've tried bios versions 1.7 and 1.9; 1.7 definitely takes longer to initially have errors, but once they start they keep happening. I've also tried a couple of different catalyst drivers. I've also tried the crossfire bridges in my computer without a problem.

The only thing I can think is it is either a bad mobo, or overheating, as the arctic cooling freezer heatsink sucks for this board as it has to either blow up or down, not back, and has less than an inch of clearance from the top GPU. Does anyone have other ideas, had similar problems, and/or know a solution?

I know this error is rampant, and that there doesn't seem to be a common cause, so I think I'll just RMA the board to newegg and hope that it was the problem, unless anyone has other ideas?
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Can u be more detailed on how to do this, the timmings for 2000mhz are 9-9-9-27 but i dont know how to put them in bios, i get a bunch of settings when i try to change the timmings and i dont know what they mean.
Here is a screen of my old timings,just for refference,you need to set the "first 4 options" for the first channel,then again the same for the second channel using the maufacturers timings for your ram,dont worry about any of the other timings,just leave yours on "auto"for now.So your first 4 timings should be 9-9-9-27

PS And make sure you change "bank interleaving"to disabled.


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Hello

I have some problems with my board 790 gd70 and with ram OCZ AMD edition 8 gb dual channel.
First of all the default max Bandwith is PC3-8500F(533Mhz) in CPUZ and to the bios but the manual of board write that is 1333 (667).
Is this a big problem?
Second i chronised my ram at 8-8-8-24 as the OCZ says and fsb ram 1-4 because are 1600.
I have some problems sometimes who running the cpuz the Pc restaring !
Sometimes the in cpuz the cpu ( phenom 965 c3)running at 3600 mhz without overcloking!
I had ram geil black dragon dd3 1333 and i change for this ram for better results.Is this that problem from the ram ocz AMD black edition?
Koutport
So is your new ram 1333mhz,or 1600mhz,???
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okay so just got my gd70 and 955 be put everything in element g case and hit the power and nothing, no leds or anything any where. psu is a thermaltake evo_blue 650w brand new. i have the 24 pin connector hooked up 8-pin cpu connector

i dont know what could be hoked up wrong... although i havnt built a pc in a few years

any one have any ideas?
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cleary i am gettin no power but why? i've tried both directions on the psu switch and reconnected the 24 pin.

tried different power cables and different sockets, im stumped
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OK! Now please, please tell me what do I do wrong?
Trying to get stable (Prime 95 mostly, because I think it's the most "demanding" means stressing software for CPU) 3750 MHz with settings like these:
(I have prepared a spreadsheet with all of my settings... just to compare ... and I think it's quite useful)

My Overclock Settings For MSI 790FX-GD70 and PII 945 (Non BE)

BTW! Anyone knows how to embeed google spreadsheet in post in this forum (like Eclipse did in the OP) ?

Anyway... like you can see after 8 hours of Prime95 blend mode there was 1 error.
I was testing memory with MemTest and it was fine.

The question is: should I bump up CPU Voltage more (from 1.467 V to ...even 1.5 V ? - it generates a lot of heat - under load 51*C - maybe that's the cause of instability) ?
I could get this CPU to 4 GHz (of course not with these settings and 1.51 V and of course not stable) so 3.7 GHz isn't definitely this CPU limit.

What are your suggestions - which of these values should I change? (BTW! I have noticed that to achieve 3.6 GHz I need less voltage to make the whole system stable) after 3705 it's a quite different ball game

The last attempt was CPU V = 1.467 and CPU NB V = 1.385 V ... I am desperated... very! :

One more thing! Is it better to overclock CPU increasing FSB value but not a multiplier (well, I got it blocked at x15) or the same process but higher FSB values and lowering multiplier - for instance to x14.5 or x13 ? Which one sollution is more complicate to overclock?
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